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Originally Posted by aggo
redundant.
Let me be clear.
WE'RE NOT SHOVING BECAUSE HE ISN'T ALWAYS CALLING IT OFF WITH J9o WHEN WE SHOVE, BUT HE WILL CALL/CALL WITH ALL OF THOSE HANDS WHEN WE JUST RAISE.
If you still don't understand this concept and why just raising is infinitely better than jamming, sorry, you just don't get it. Do you understand that you're passing up a billion dollars in EV when you just jam and fish only calls with hands like a2dd, 56dd, AJ etc etc? (hint: WHEN HE CALLS YOU'RE NEVER CRUSHING HIM, even vs **** FLUSHDRAWS. hint #2: he DOESNT ALWAYS CALL WITH WORSE QJ, BUT ALWAYS WITH A2dd, 56dd, AJ. hint#3: WHEN YOU WEIGHT HIS ****ING CALLING RANGE YOU'RE NEVER CRUSHING)
Only like 40% of the deck is bad. Stop being silly. V1 and V2's ranges here ARE SO WEAK. Why shove and remove any abilty to extract value? They have so many bad hands that aren't folding yet. If you think his range is exclusively Jx, FDs and t9 you don't understand ranges. PERIOD.
what boggles my mind is that you immediately think that in order to get stacks in comfortably without weird sizing is that you can only ship flop.
What can i say, i'm right and you're just straight up wrong. How does that feel?
Ironically you're not within a light year of being anything remotely close to correct, but it's good to know that this gets you irate enough to explode in front of your computer and start jamming the CAPS button repeatedly.
A number of people have noted in this thread that you can't get stacks in comfortably at all by raising without shipping. Do you really find it viable here to make it $65? You would then have to make decisions in a spot where a boatload of turn cards suck when you have $72 of a $190 stack invested. How does shipping a 6d turn feel? Qd? Ah? 7s?
Also, "only" 40% of the deck is bad? Only?
A billion dollars in EV? Really? We're playing an effective 95xBB stack in a cash game in a fairly close spot.
Last edited by KurtSF; 05-29-2010 at 11:56 AM.
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