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1/2 - JJ on K high monotone board 1/2 - JJ on K high monotone board

12-06-2011 , 04:59 AM
1/2 at Borgata

Villain - $200 - 30's white guy. Just sat down with his friend an orbit ago. He might be aggro - drinking beer, raised a few times. Has the look of a semi-drunk guy having a good time. He is at least reasonably competent, as the hand below illustrates.

1 hand I saw he raised AJo in mp, got called by someone with a pp on the button. Flop was KK4ss, he cbet, got called. Turn was a brick, went check check. River was a Jack. He bet 20 into 60 and got called.

Hero - $300 - Playing TAG. This guy probably doesn't know much about me b/c he just sat down.

Villain (UTG) raises to $15
folds to hero
Hero (Button) JJ calls $15
blinds fold

Pot ~30
Flop: K93
Villain checks, Hero bets $16, Villain calls

I don't know his raising range UTG, and vs an unknown I don't want to raise/call, so I called and decided to evaluate. I don't think he 2 barrels so I thought I could play pretty well IP. $15 was a little large for the table.

Flop is pretty dangerous, but he checked which was odd. I figured 1/2 pot should be enough to deny him odds, trigger a CR (if he's trapping), or fold his air. Was pretty surprised he c/c.

I figure his range consists of PP's under K's with 1 heart (probably QQ-TT), MAYBE Kings with no heart (KJ, KQ if he raises them UTG), MAYBE AhQx or other overpair + NFD hands, and probably hands like the Nut Flush that are trapping. I figure AhKx, KxQh would bet, and sets wouldn't c/c.

Pot~ 62
Turn: K937
Villain checks, hero ?

I was really torn over whether to bet. I don't know if he folds QhQx. I don't know if he's folding a king here, although kings are tough for him to have. I don't think most 1/2 players would semi-bluff CR here either.

Do you guys like a bet here? If so, how much? I think something like $35 gets the job done if I want to bet.

Problem is I think a lot of his drawing range just cbets the flop, which means there's a good chance he has QhQx (ahead of me), JhJd (freerolling), or ThTx (i beat).

Assuming I bet, do I just check back a blank river?
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12-06-2011 , 05:24 AM
do you ever 3b JJ IP?

There is a huge part of his range that is just going to C/C this flop. Are you going to lead into him on this flop with a flush? What are you accomplishing with your raise?
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12-06-2011 , 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by IIIshipitII
do you ever 3b JJ IP?

There is a huge part of his range that is just going to C/C this flop. Are you going to lead into him on this flop with a flush? What are you accomplishing with your raise?
??? I'm IP and he checked. I didn't raise.

I don't 3b JJ vs UTG raises from unknowns. If called I still have no idea where I'm at. If shoved, I would have to fold. JJ has too much value to 3b/fold.

I bet because there's a good chance I have the best hand. It makes him fold hands like AQ which are still drawing live. It protects my hand against 1 card FD's. Bet also helps fend off a bluff b/c his air hands can't call.
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12-06-2011 , 06:03 AM
I usually check behind here and hero off blank rivers as I think a large part of his range is a big heart and I don't like getting raised at any point or being faced with a jam otr
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12-06-2011 , 06:11 AM
I would c/back the turn. Betting the turn is usually burning money if we don't know whether we are turning our hand into a bluff and/or what rivers are good cards to bluff/or check for showdown value etc on. I think his bluff range OTR is actually going to be pretty narrow after taking this line, so I don't think I'm going to be hero-calling on too many river cards, but might re-evaluate based on sizing/live tells.
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12-06-2011 , 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by canoodles
I would c/back the turn. Betting the turn is usually burning money if we don't know whether we are turning our hand into a bluff and/or what rivers are good cards to bluff/or check for showdown value etc on. I think his bluff range OTR is actually going to be pretty narrow after taking this line, so I don't think I'm going to be hero-calling on too many river cards, but might re-evaluate based on sizing/live tells.
I feel better about the hand now, yay.

Hero checks back

River~62
K937T
Villain bets $20 Hero?

Looks like I'm beat, but it's a small bet and I guess there's some chance he could have some random ten or be on a stone bluff with the Ah.
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12-06-2011 , 10:57 PM
Obvious value bet by him imo...

We saw him do this before.

QJ with the Q makes the most sense to me.

qq too.
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12-06-2011 , 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by RobFarha
Obvious value bet by him imo...

We saw him do this before.

QJ with the Q makes the most sense to me.

qq too.
So just fold?
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12-06-2011 , 11:36 PM
I'm a station so I call lol
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12-06-2011 , 11:38 PM
You never know he might be trying to get to a cheap showdown with ten or nine or just be rubbish at bluffing not knowing we are stationy lol
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12-07-2011 , 12:03 AM
I'd call river. Would fold for $25+.
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12-07-2011 , 12:12 AM
I would fold, yes.
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12-07-2011 , 03:16 PM
Thanks for replies. I actually called.

Villain showed TTx for rivered trips which was pretty annoying.

I was annoyed at the time b/c I thought if I bet the turn I probably win, but I feel better about my play now though. Thanks for the advice.
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