1/2: How to extract more from bottom set here on a wet A high board?
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V ($500) opens $25 UTG,
Hero ($900) calls 7♠️7♦️ in CO
SB ($350) overcalls
Flop ($77): A❤️9❤️7♣️
V cbets $40, Hero raises to $140, SB folds, V folds
Seems like a standard play to target all AK/AQ type hands but SB said he folded AJ. UTG also probably folded a KK-TT type of hand.
Are you guys ever just flatting flop? I felt too many turns may kill our action.
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V opens to 12.5bb ???
Call pre. is probably bad.
As played on flop ... raise is meh, you probably don't have much non-value. JTs maybe? If 77 is bad pre. then even T8s seems insane. If a 3bet comes in you should be in a terrible spot. In general raising A high boards as the non-PFR leans very strong.
SB overcalling pre. with AJ is so much worse than your call it might make your call okaish, calling the raise cold on the flop would be even worse than that though.
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That is a big raise pre! I can go either way on the flop, but in general I like a raise. I might go $100 - $120 to try to keep their aces in.
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The preflop call seems OK, since the raiser usually has a big hand that you can win a big pot against with a set. It is likely someone else will call, giving you better immediate odds.
I am not crazy about the checkraise, because people don't raise that much at 1/2 and it looks strong. You could be raising with a draw. However, the guy who made it 25 cold could have AA/99/AK/AQ, so it looks strong that you are not worried about that.
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Preflop is meh without more information on villain. Villains stack is just big enough to support a call but more information on his postflop play would make it easier to really get value.
Postflop hero can't afford to mess around on a wet flop. Sometimes nobody will have a hand good enough to play but in that case they don't have hands good enough to put much money in either. Hero has no reason to let the few hands with two hearts draw cheaply.
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The hh shows why preflop is marginal. Yeah, the guy who makes it 25 cold probably has a big hand, but a lot of times it comes A high and he has JJ or his AK/AQ misses. So you don't always get paid off with your set.
The preflop raiser could easily have AA or 99 on A97 and you get stacked. However, you don't always get all the money in when he has AK/AQ.
Caller is burning money overcalling with AJ. However, he isn't bad enough to cold call the raise call with that.
Flat calling the flop seems better. Give the other player a chance to call or raise. Then maybe bet or raise a blank turn.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by deuceblocker
I am not crazy about the checkraise,
It's not a check/raise.
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I could see raising flop if the PFR bet 1/3 pot or less. But he bet a little more than 1/2 pot on an ace-high two-tone board.
That sizing sort of screams weak value that is going to fold to a raise or be one and done if he gets called and doesn't improve on the turn. So a raise here looks really strong.
Think I'd prefer to just flat call, let the SB come along, and see what happens on the turn. If the turn is a low offsuit brick, we can take the lead with a raise or bet if it gets checked to us. Otherwise we can just call if the turn might have improved V's hand and he bets again. Just let him bet himself out.
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