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1/2 Good player always min raises. Is this a strategy he is using? 1/2 Good player always min raises. Is this a strategy he is using?

07-25-2013 , 09:08 AM
who cares about his goals. For the purpose of this discussion when we question if he is 'good' or not it is whether this strategy is profitable...it is not.

You guys want to min-raise, get 6 callers and then try to OUTPLAY all 6 players when they could legitimately have any 2 cards?? also, by OP's description its from 'any position'...good luck with that. You get 0 information on opponents cards by playing this way...hence the brick looking 2 on the turn may in fact give someone 2 pair etc..be prepared to fold big pocket pairs on the flop then...
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07-25-2013 , 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Aves2
One of the biggest winners in the pokerstars midstakes games employed this strategy. So im sure it can be used to beat 1/2 live. The higher rake compared to online should be offset by the skill level difference
Are we talking 6-handed or 9-handed?

One key difference is that people are typically much tighter online, thus a min-raise could be big enough to get hands 3 or 4 way and yes maybe when people 3 bet him he to isolate he is able to pick good spots to 4 bet or call and outplay them post flop...

However, live is so much looser, so i expect a min-raise to be called by almost everyone on the table and constantly 'outplaying' that many people given they could have anything is near impossible
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07-25-2013 , 10:12 AM
I mean, basically what is happening is he is doing a straddle from any position. If no one is 3betting his opens, he is basically limping but preventing raises. If he sees a flop 4 ways, he only needs to win 25% of the time, and while he probably has less than 25% equity sometimes, if he can play postflop better than his opponents, he will be value betting more effectively he can put his money in good a lot more than the other players and leverage his wide range to get folds in marginal spots.

The only issue that I would have with this is if a) he is getting 3bet or b) he is getting himself in tough spots out of position with marginal holdings. I think someone could be profitable doing this from the HJ down with ATC as long as you don't get 3bet much.

It does go to show that a decent player has a massive advantage postflop and can get max value out of good hands and lose the minimum from bad hands. I don't think the play would be optimal, but it would be a lot of fun at a very passive table and could definitely be profitable if you are confident and have good reads postflop.
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07-25-2013 , 11:47 PM
I have used similar strategy, when playing with a table full of nits, weak-passives, scared-money... you know, generally easy players to read, and who I have very little fear that I'll be bluffed off my hand.

If the table is right, I will play up to 75% of hands from HJ and Button, opening for $6-11, getting 3-8 callers. I usually, probably 80%, cbet pot or more, almost regardless of the flop.

Think about this. You have a table full of limpers, and you open to $11 and get 4 callers. Pot is like $50. Flop comes, and "check to the raiser" and I make it $65, and get 1 caller. Turn is $180 and "check to the raiser" and I shove for like $130 or more, and my one caller flicks his cards and folds.

The conditions have to be right, but you'd be surprised how frequently this works.

You'd be even more surprised how nobody seems to adjust.

So I'm just guessing that this guy has figured out a way to get the table to slowly roll their chips down hill into his stack.

Its not poker so much as just bashing the morons.

What you need to do is get a seat on his right, limp, and be that guy who 3b small, like $18. Get it heads up with him with a nice overlay. If he comes over, then flat and play poker.
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