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1/2 Games and the buy in size. 1/2 Games and the buy in size.

08-03-2016 , 06:31 PM
Hey everyone, I would consider myself a rookie to the game and is willing to learn from his mistakes and games. I have a quick question about buy in sizes to games and how it will effect my play style and how I should adjust to it. In my closest casinos I play at, one allows a max buyin of $200(100bb) and the other allows $300(150bb). I have noticed at the $300 bi casino often hve massive stacks at the table, often 1.5K+ At the other one, stacks rarely go above $500. How can I vary my play style and/or play differently at each one to match the relative stack sizes? I do understand that play always differ based on the stack size of each player at the table, of course.
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08-03-2016 , 06:57 PM
Basically deeper stacks allow for more post flop play, which generally translates to more skill, which generally translates to better win rates for experienced/skilled players........... Generally..........

Imo, most things are similar. Play in position. Don't spew. Don't play marginal hands oop.
But with deeper buyins and stacks, things like set mining/suited connectors are prob more profitable.

Definitely also need more discipline with deeper stacks. Example) AA in EP raise, and gets 4 callers. 5-way to the flop and ~200bb effective? Approaching with a ton of caution. Not trying to stack of 200bb with just a pair in a multiway pot. Whereas if we are 100bb and half the table is like 60-70bb deep, these mistakes are less costly

If we are pretty new to the game and inexperienced, we are prob at a disadvantage in a deeper stacked game.
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08-04-2016 , 12:40 AM
My local casino has a $300 max buyin (150bb) and I was always buyin in for that because of my experience online, ALWAYS buy in for max....

However, I didn't take into account that live I don't have 20-50 buyins behind me so I was actually incorrect to buy in for max unless I *know* I have the advantage, which when making a journey into live poker you need time and experience to get comfortable.

So after my last session I decided to only buy in for $200 from now on, allowing my same $ BR to effectively have 1.5x the buyins. What others buy in for is irrelevant, they could buy in for $3000, but their play against me will always be for a reasonable sized stack.

Just something to think about!
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08-04-2016 , 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by jc315
Basically deeper stacks allow for more post flop play, which generally translates to more skill, which generally translates to better win rates for experienced/skilled players........... Generally..........
Yes, generally!
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Originally Posted by jc315
But with deeper buyins and stacks, things like set mining/suited connectors are prob more profitable.
In Harrington on Cash Games (which I read a couple years back), he talks about how at a table with like 25bb max, everyone will be stacking of with pairs and high cards preflop and on the flop, since there's no room for playability and the implied odds of small pairs and suited cards decreases since there's not much behind; how when it's 100bb it loosens up to allow for more playability; and how at tables with 500bb people are actually folding the second nuts. The deeper the stack, the stronger the hand you want to have. It also adds fold equity which favors strong players who can blow people off there top pair type hands.
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Not trying to stack of 200bb with just a pair in a multiway pot. Whereas if we are 100bb and half the table is like 60-70bb deep, these mistakes are less costly
Yes and when stacks are 60-70bb-ish, people are much more willing to get it in with things like top pair.
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If we are pretty new to the game and inexperienced, we are prob at a disadvantage in a deeper stacked game.
For sure. I would start with 100bb unless we just have a massive bankroll, and potentially even less if we are a real neophyte until we get a better feel for the game. GL out there!!
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08-04-2016 , 02:49 PM
If you have $300 and your opponent has $1500 then you're still just playing for $300 when you're up against that player. So opponents playing much deeper doesn't change much unless it affects their playing style, or you build up your stack so you end up playing for more than $300 later.
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08-04-2016 , 06:45 PM
good questions OP. You're thinking about it the right way. Deeper = mistakes can be costlier. Its obvious but its true.

Steve00 makes a good point, you're only as deep as the 2nd largest stack in the hands. Certain players at the table will be more inclined to play for bigger pots so take note of that and formulate a plan for your hands multiple streets ahead (at least by the flop you should have a plan for most turns and rivers).
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