Saw COTM and interesting wrt this hand. Just happened last night so cool timing. I will be discussing my on-going thought process during the hand. Promise all this was true at the time.

Villain sat down and tossed out 3 black chips from his pocket to buy in, busted by bluffing into a station, pulled more black chips out, rinsed and repeated, and I believe this is his 4th $300 buy-in all black chips from his pocket. He was Ukranian by name/accent and seemed pretty careless about money/the game imo. Not a ton of HH because he mucked so often because he had nothing so often apparently. Only at table for ~50 hands.

Villain: $395
Hero: $550


Preflop: Hero is dealt A3
Villain is UTG and raises to 10, one call and others fold to me OTB and I call.

Flop ($33): T74

Villain tosses in two green chips ($50) pretty quickly. Other guy snap folds, I re-count the pot just in case I messed up and am a bit confused. Never seen him overbet, at the time, I had no real memory of seeing him raise anything preflop but I'm sure he had.

My plan: Villain was doing the betting for me, my hand wasn't going to improve, and even a board pairing on the turn seems unlikely to give me the second best hand. At this point I ranged villain to have a myriad of hands. My thinking was pretty basic: If he has a good flush/set, he's going broke regardless of my action; If he has air (likely imo), my best action is to flat here. Raising narrows my range something silly and gets folds from tons of hands.

I act a bit confused (kinda was) and called.

Turn ($133): K

Villain quickly tosses out $100 chip, has +/- $200 behind.

My plan: Loved the K, unlikely to improve my potential range, I feel like my taking time indicates me having a naked A or some pair+FD combo. K also greatly connects with his range imo. Obviously, I have no ability to be able to rule out KK here. My choices are to shove here or flat. I decided to flat, to allow him to barrel the river. Note: I decided OTT that I was going to call the turn bet and call ANY river bet. I think calling the turn bet with the plan to EVER fold is nut-low. In that case I should be shoving. I just think I make more money by letting him have a shot to bet the river.

Hero takes some time, counts remaining stack, and calls.

River ($333): 7

Villain tosses out $175 in under 10 seconds. Turned out despite my plan on the turn, the snap-call was not coming out. I took some time, convinced myself that I lose to only two hands (which I think is 100% true-KK/TT). I think TT is somewhat unlikely, he had limped often pre, I don't see why TT would be raised. KK is possible and makes sense with his line. I reminded myself villain had been mega-aggro, I had spent the entire hand acting like I hated calling all streets, and planned to do this (AKA I set up the entire hand to make this exact call). I also beat any flopped flush, any Kx, AA, 7x as well I suppose. T7 is not in his range.

Hero called $175.



Thoughts? Re-reading the HH, I think my line is still pretty good tbh. Not trying to be cocky, but I just think his range is mega-wide. If his range is mega-wide, is this line/plan, the way to make the most money here?

Thanks all

So you got what you wanted the villain bet the river...so you call because you're afraid of the boat?

Just trying to figure out your thinking process...

What did he end up having? k7 with k of spades would be justice

What do you mean I call because I'm afraid of the boat? I call because I've set him up to be bluffing here a buch.

Villain has like 30 behind at the time, I guess I quoted his stack wrong pre.

It's a fair question I suppose if he has 50+ behind, but at the time, I'm sure it was 30 max.

Guess villain started with ~$360

Justice for who?

hahaha justice for him bcz you did not raise/shove the turn i think theres enough in the pot that if he folds you win a good amount,so thats the route i woulda took(even tho i understand what you were trying to accomplish).

What did he roll over?

Why not re-raise on after the river?

Flatting the river doesn't seem to be maximizing your hand does it?

I mean if he's bluffing then he's going to fold anyway but if he has a hand he might make a hero call....what have you got to lose?

later for results. I am arguing the route I took wins me the most money the most amount of the time. Obviously sometimes it doesn't. As is poker.

If I raise (or shove) the turn, and I did think about it, what calls? All flushes, all sets, perhaps some 2pair hands. He can't have AsK or Asx because I have it so I think it is fair to say he has no FDs that would call, only made hands. Imo, these hands are going to barrel/shove all river cards too. I think he shoves sets on the river (without the board pairing) because he's aggro, and I'm showing tons of weakness. Perhaps some sets give up if another spade rolls off, but that's not happening a ton.

He folds 100% of his bluffs on the turn, which most certainly loses me money. I think my equity in this spot vs. a certified reckless villain is extremely high. Shoving seems to allow him to get away from too many bluffs/mediocre hands. He can also have QQsx or JJsx and bink a spade on the river while those hands fold the turn shove.

When he shoves the river he's polarized his range pretty mega-hard to flushes, boats, and air.

Air folds, others call. I beat flushes, I lose to boats, and air is a fold. It seems kinda 0EV. Especially as I downplay him having flushes because his flop bet is horrible with a flush.

If you convince yourself that your calling ANY river than thats the correct line to take.
Doesnt apply to this villain but if he winds up having spades a paired board may lose you some money

Villain showed JsJc. Weeeee

Epic and well played.

I usually hate slow playing and you said villian had already folded when he had air so I think it's impossible for him to have air when he donks the turn again. I'd raise there to get it in, because a lot of people won't 3 barrel and he clearly loves his hand so far.

You forgot about the fact that if this villain is bluffing, a fourth spade, rather than killing your action, might appear to be a great scare card for villain to continue bluffing. But that only makes your plan better, not worse.

The only decision in this hand I disagree with is not shoving the river to get the last of villain's stack (or make him fold and have the entire table wonder what you had). Otherwise, nice hand.

It's fun playing the nuts in position against a well rolled maniac.

Jesus...where do you play??

If he has air on the turn, isn't raising the nut low?

I thought on a 4th spade he was insta-shoving, didn't mention it though you are right. I think I repped AT pretty well and I assume it's what he thought.

Losing 30-50 on the river by not raising is a mistake, for sure.

As played, you got pretty much max value anyway, so nicely done! However, when I was following your thought process, my first instinct was to shove the turn and expect to be called by a fairly wide range.

The main reasons that lead me to this is your description of villain, and his bet sizing OTF. You say he is an aggro maniac who simply fires off full BI's and reaches into his pocket to top up like it's nothing, which says to me he's not unlikely to stack off light.

Whilst his preflop range is wide, his UTG open should at least narrow it down a little, and by overbetting the flop here, I think he is more likely to have a made hand, a hand with considerable showdown value and/or potential to improve, such as JxJs, QxQs, KxKs, AxAx, AxKs, KsQx, KsJx and maybe even as wide as AT or KQo. I think with most of these hands you're likely to get a call on the turn against this particular opponent, and not always guaranteed to to fire again on the river, since your line does actually represent a fair amount of strength. Though, luckily he was completely spewy, and made a completely ******ed bet on the river. Ship the free money!

I think just calling here with the flopped nutflush makes it extremely difficult, in most situations where our opponent is *not* spewy, to get the money in on later streets. For instance, if V also flopped a flush, a 4th spade guarantees that V is c/calling all remaining streets for fear of the A.

Also, if you're deep (250bb+) against a competent player NEVER SLOWPLAY A FLOPPED FLUSH b/c, in addition to the above considerations, IF the board pairs, like in this example, you have to bet-fold to a c/shove IP all day (worse if OOP), giving V the chance to bluff-raise (which no one does at LLSNL, hence having to fold because it's a boat like 98%).

I'm not disagreeing with what you are saying, but as villain was a spewy player, all of this is not germane to the thread.

You are about the first person to try to range this villain for his turn action which I found difficult at the time.

Your range is pretty accurate. We need to dump in TT. I honestly think there are a ton of TX's in that range, any KX with a spade, and a significant amount of air.

I hate raising the turn because while he doesn't have a ton of air still enough exists that I'm losing value. K is a pretty bad card for his flop range of Tx, JJ/QQ, 89, etc.

I'm raising the flop here for sure vs this type of villain they are just not folding when they take this line/speed of action. I don't think it matters that much vs this guy but you don't want to loose action on spade turns.

though I am not sure what really else can be said in this hand you flopped the joint vs a super spewy player who is betting large so its easy to get stacks in.

Raise flop he's not randomly overbetting the pot wit air. You've never seen him do this before so there is a reason even if he just has two overs I think he has the k/q spade and he probably thinks that it is good. I would make it 125-145. It'll be really easy to get the rest of the money in with 2 streets and a spr of Better than 1.

When u don't raise the flop I think you have to jam the turn I think there's a lot of action killing cards and I also think he's just never folding after his actions

I like the line and am playing it the same way given reads, except for the river. If his range is so wide why not pick up the extra 50 when youre ahead like 90% of the time lol