Table Dynamics - 1/2 Thursday night, local room, H knows most of the players at the table besides two V's. V in this hand is an old white male, with a War Veterans hat on. H is 30s and white.

H should have an aggreessive, competent image, maybe a little bit on the looser side.

One prior HH of note. H opened to 12 in LP with QQ, 4 total to a flop V included plus another V who was very very tight all night. Flop was K77, x,x,x H bets 25, both V's call. K779, x,x,x - River K7795 V2x, V1 bets 50 into about 100, H and V2 tank fold, and V1 shows 95.

As the night went on V1 started to loose his OMC stereotype and just seemed like a very passive fish who overvalued hands - would almost always limp and call an open with a ton of hands.

OTTH -

V is effective stack with about 250 - A few limps to H and H in the Button raises to 12 with QJdd (3bets pf were VERY VERY RARE at this table), two callers including V

Flop 36ish
AsKcQs

x,x, H decides to bet 15 - fold, V makes the call

Turn (66ish)

AsKcQsTh

H makes broadway, V checks H bets 40, V tank calls

River 140ish

AsKcQsThTd

V x, H bets 50, V xr Jams for 162 total - H?

River check/raise is ugly. Villain doesn't have enough to get me to fold a straight though. It's another $116 to win $464, way too good of odds. Unless villain is terrible this won't be high profit but villain should show up with chops and worse enough to make the call easy.

Call...$112 to call with ~$300 in the pot already. You already described him as someone who can overvalue hands.

raise alil more pre
I would fold to this guy. That's enough of a read for me.

This is the guy who had 95 in the example hand history? Kind of confused about that after reading your other post with 66 on the mono board. That hand history is pretty wild. He called multiway on the flop with 95 on K77??

I would happily call here. Seems like this guy is pretty clueless based on your read and the hand history included. You chop with a lot of his value and might even beat some random spew like AK or T9;.

Can't fold. Must call.

Just being old doesn't make him an OMC, obviously.

I think you want to bet more on the turn, it's not like you are betting KQ and depending on live stuff not AT or even AK. Bluffs would be like Ks9s, if you have any. Even 50 or 55 means you have less than pot on the river, but it's probably better to go 125 or maybe even more for all those random 9s6s hands that want to see a river and are never calling river bets unless they beat you.


For the same reasons I'm not sure I like the river bet at all ... what does he have that even calls third pot. AK played bad can pay you off. You think he calls A9 hoping for a chop or to catch you bluffing? You block KQ and all other two broadway cards chop or beat you.
At best it seems marginal, unless you think you are getting spite river calldowns.


River after the bet is whatever, I'd assume he has at least the same hand or better almost all the time ... he probably doesn't have AA/KK/QQ but can easily have QT and play terrible this way. I can see myself sigh calling and almost never winning.
The 95 hand doesn't really mean much, although strongly confirms he has QT in flop calling range (if there was doubt), because everyone assumes TAG players are cbetting everything on the flop K77 and they respond by massively overcalling, then 9x looks pretty good when you check and can be going for "value" vs. AQ or whatever.

Also not actually sure QQ should bet 3-4 (maybe not even HU) ways on K77, and very likely not for 1/2 or 2/3 pot.

I tanked called - if I hadn't seen that 95 hand or even a few other instances with him overvaluing medium type hands I prob wouldn't have.

V rolls over 109, and H scoops.

You know, if you were both $200 deeper, T9 would be a perfect hand to turn into a bluff on the River.

As played, looks like V was just clicking buttons, lol. Nice call.

I think its $116 to win $232 most of the time, because itll probably mostly be Jx, TQ TK TA. V can occasionally spaz, but we are MOSTLY calling to a chop.

I think its a pretty marginal spot, im inclined to call in marginal spots, cuz worst case the fish get deeper.

I think I find a check back on river, not sure what we’re targeting. We also get check raised by boats.

As played even though I saw results I am folding river.

Pot on the Turn is 140 and V has 195 in his stack. I'm certainly not checking. But I'm thinking that the only bet size here is 195 to put V all in.