Reads: Villain gives the appearance of being bad and spewey. He appears drunk, he's very loud, he plays a high percent of his hands preflop, but he's shown down good hands. Was caught bluffing once, and made a horrible call once w/ nothing.

Effective stacks, $300.

Preflop, I'm in MP and open limp w/ Q10. Effective stacks were pretty deep, plus this is the best hand I've seen in like 2 hours, so I called. Another villain called on the button, SB folds, BB (villain) checks. Flop comes Q54, villain bets $10. Call or raise?

I actually just called, button called, turn was 3, villain bets $30. Call or fold? I decided to just call. River is 3, villain bets $35. Hero?

[QUOTE=yodachoda;25818563]Reads: Villain gives the appearance of being bad and spewey. He appears drunk, he's very loud, he plays a high percent of his hands preflop, but he's shown down good hands. Was caught bluffing once, and made a horrible call once w/ nothing.

Effective stacks, $300.

Preflop, I'm in MP and open limp w/ Q10. Effective stacks were pretty deep, plus this is the best hand I've seen in like 2 hours, so I called. Another villain called on the button, SB folds, BB (villain) checks. Flop comes Q54, villain bets $10. Call or raise?

I actually just called, button called, turn was 3, villain bets $30. Call or fold? I decided to just call. River is 3, villain bets $35.

What's your image? Without anymore info I can say that I'm not a fan of open limping at all for these exact reasons. What's your reason for just flitting through the turn? Are you playing bluff catcher or just unsure where you are in the hand? I can't imagine why the villain makes PSBs through the hand and then eases off the pedal by the river unless he's scared his turned straight just got trumped or his boat just filled up and he's attempting to look weak on the river with purpose.

Given the fact that you said he's drunk my guess is he's unsure where he is in the hand.

[QUOTE=SmokeyMirrors;25819015] Do you fold pre then? A bit more info: There's alot of limping at this table. One limp usually triggers a cascade of limping. Plus, players call alol preflop, so I didn't think I would steal the blinds successfully alot, so I limped. My image must be pretty solid, but definetly one of the tightest players preflop.

My edit came a little late. The good hands he's showing, are they solid showdowns or is he showing down a lot of TPMKs? I've played with a lot of players at 1/2 who play two pair the same exact way they play TPWK. Betting heavy the flop and turn. Given his flop bet I'm reading the hand as if he's weak with the, but then v continues on the turn. This is where it gets tough bc we've not raised the flop. I also find that by raising the flop when in position it gives us a bit more control in the hand. There are also a lot of turn cards I feel we can bluff with if we think we're behind.

Now that you've come this far, I call and expect to win 1/3 - 1/2 of the time.

Was I villain in the hand??????
Where do you play???

Grand Victoria Elgin. Are you an old white guy?

As played +1

On the river I think I call. If you raise the river then he is folding out most of the hands that you beat.

agree with calling here. but only because you flat called the turn. I wouldn't expect to win a high percentage of the time since the pot went unraised though. I mean, even terribad villains usually slow down unless they hit a big piece of the flop. him betting 2 streets into multiple players and a 3rd into you is strong, even if he is spewy or drunk. but with that said, all that really matters is what HE perceives to be a big hand here. is he bad enough to think 45 is good? how about Q7? A5? like I said you're not beating a whole lot and playing this hand passively can lead to spots where you're playing the role of bluff catcher, but usually for alot more money in relation to the pot.

I wouldn't have hated a raise preflop here as long as you're not married to it post flop if you find yourself being played back at.

Call turn call river.

At a tightish table I'd probably come in for a raise (or fold), but at a passive loose table I'd probably limp in here to and take my chances.

When villain bluffed, was it like a 3 street bet/bet/bet bluff? Does he lead into two players with nothing? What are his bet sizing on bluffs (small weak bets trying to steal it or big massive overbets really putting players to the test)? Ditto for when he's betting his good hands (does he underbet not wanting to scare players off, or overbet trying for max value)?

I kinda think a better read is needed to know what to do. In general, I'd probably call on the flop like you did and then re-evaluate on the turn. The turn bet is > PSB, so here read would be very important as to whether I'd consider calling down or not. Kinda looks like we're being value-towned, but I'm not sure...

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Oh yeah forgot to mention, CO called the flop bet. He folded to the turn bet.

Anyways, results: I called, lost to pocket queens the last hand I put him on.

This is quite important, I thought we were HU after the flop. Dude is betting > PSB into two opponents who felt they had enough of this fairly dry flop to continue; methinks it is unlikely he is bluffing here unless you've seen a history of him trying to bluff in multiway pots on big streets.

Looks pretty good - I call all streets given your reads.

Sarge

I would raise pre. Just cause you said you been card dead...might of been time to do it with ATC and 2 suited broadway cards is more than good enough. I know you said they would call, but thats ok. Just food for thought

As played I call it down

Wow I just read the answers. He had pocket QQ huh?

I wouldn't have put him on top set either, was thinking maybe 55 or 44 tho. It smelled like bluff or nuts. Maybe a counterfeited 54...

Anyways, he limped with QQ and got lucky imo, I wouldn't sweat this hand

If you raised pre does it play differently? Just curious what you think