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1/2, Bottom set 3-way, IP, kinda deep 1/2, Bottom set 3-way, IP, kinda deep

04-22-2012 , 12:05 AM
1/2$, Saturday night, Horseshoe Hammond, full-ring
Hero: 550$, white, mid 20s, ive been at the table for about 6 hours and have been playing very well. Many c-bets followed by fires on the turn taking down pots, one bigger 3-way pot with nut straight that was never shown. V1 def views me as a solid player.
V1: 700$, black, mid 20s, clean cut, well dressed, solid player. he had about 600 when i sat at the table and i have seen nothing but TAG from him for 6 hours. He has seen me at the Horseshoe before and knows im a reg.
V2: 190, white, mid 20s, skateboarder guy, complete moron. I literally dont know if he knows how to add...on about 5 different occasions, he was facing a bet tosses out chips for a 'call' and he was off by like 15 each time. He has been at the table for about 1 hour and is the typical fish. sat down with 100 and double up with nut straight against idk. Also, he sat with 50% in red and 50$ in white, stacked in 5-chip high piles. ahhaha

FWIW: If you want to know how dumb this guy is, check this hand out. I raise to 14 UTG with QQ, folds to him in the SB. He grabs the correct amount of chips throws them, and at the same time says all in. Dealer doesnt hear it. Me and other dude at the table say wait a minute. Me and dude ask what he said, V2 responds "well i was going to go all in but its no big deal. If you dont want to call all in we can just see the flop." So i'm thinking to myself "wtf, i wish this dealer would have heard him say it."
Luckily, dude to my side says, "No, i heard him say all in". Dealer asks "waht did you say?" V2 says "i said all in but i dont care". Dealer makes him go all in for like 95, i call, he flops set of 8 and fist pumps the 200$
pot.

The Hand:
V1limps in MP and V2 limp in CO. I make it 12 with 55 from button. folds around to villains and they both call.

The Flop: Q105 (39$)
Checks to me, i bet 25...call and call.

The Turn: Q105 A(114$)
goes check, check. Im not really liking this card. I can easily put KJ in V1's range and V2's range. I bet 75 hoping to take it down right there. V1 tanks and huffs and puffs and folds. Im kinddddaa happy he fold, bc now effective stacks just got sliced by like 70%. V2 calls.

The river: Q1053 (264$)
Flush gets there. V2 checks. I can honestly say that V2 could have ANY two clubs; connected or not.
Is it worth it for me to put his last 80$ or wahtever in there?
If i bet the rest of his stack, what could i possibly get called by that is worse? even against a moron? If i bet and he folds, atleast i keep from showing my cards to V1.

Do you like my sizing on the turn? do i bet the river against v2 ?
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04-22-2012 , 12:46 AM
Hmm. V2 has limped/called, check/call, check/call, and then check? Doesn't exactly scream strength....but unless he's a complete calling station that will call down with any part of the board, I probably just check it back here. I mean, can we ever get called by worse on this board?

Bet sizing all look fine. Maybe a tad bigger on the flop?
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04-22-2012 , 12:57 AM
I'd probably put him in based on description. He can have a whole bunch of 2 pair and even 1 pair hands that you beat and he will call with. I can't really see him checking a flush otr and I think he would just ship turn 3-way with KJ. It's one of those spots I might check back in game but from a theoretical point of view I think this is a mandatory bet in the long run against these types of players.
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04-22-2012 , 02:00 AM
Why the sad face in your OP when the turn comes? The only hand that directly effects you with that turn card is exactly KJ. Everything else, you still crush. I could imagine much worse turns than this.
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04-22-2012 , 02:45 AM
Well lets think for a second: How many players would call their last $80 on the river getting over 4:1 with a weak two pair, or even something as suspect as K-10? Because thats what I think v2 will show up with here much of the time. I would absolutely bet his last $80. People c/c with terrible hands sometimes, especially at low levels, and nothing about v2 makes you take him seriously in the hand.
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04-22-2012 , 10:23 AM
V1limps in MP and V2 limp in CO. I make it 12 with 55 from button. folds around to villains and they both call.

The Flop: Q105 (39$)
Checks to me, i bet 25...call and call.
I would bet at least pot here since fish who doesn't fold is in the hand. V2 now has ~140; pot ~160

The Turn: Q105 A(114$)
goes check, check. Im not really liking this card. I can easily put KJ in V1's range and V2's range. I bet 75 hoping to take it down right there. V1 tanks and huffs and puffs and folds. Im kinddddaa happy he fold, bc now effective stacks just got sliced by like 70%. V2 calls.
I'd bet half pot. You still protect you hand while setting up a river shove. V2 now has ~60; pot ~320

The river: Q1053 (264$)
~60 left makes for easy decision. If he got there, good for him
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