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It's not terrible. If you are going to click some buttons click them at least now... because it's so NOT terrible that people might actually say the opposite of that...

On the flop:
Bet, maybe 3/bet depending on villain.

There are too many good turns for us to barrel to not be bettin out here, check raising is committing us too blind and isnt as likely to make someone fold 10x as we like because it's LLSNL and people can't fold top pair.

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03-19-2012 , 06:10 AM

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metski

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Originally Posted by I am Near

It's not terrible. If you are going to click some buttons click them at least now... because it's so NOT terrible that people might actually say the opposite of that...

On the flop:
Bet, maybe 3/bet depending on villain.

There are too many good turns for us to barrel to not be bettin out here, check raising is committing us too blind and isnt as likely to make someone fold 10x as we like because it's LLSNL and people can't fold top pair.

i dont want to discus pre because its def not a raise ainec in this scenario

and not sure if your aware but were ahead of most Tx on flop vs like AT were crushing vs like TJ were still more than 50% so dont mind getting it in vs Tx..

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03-19-2012 , 01:50 PM

#28

LolPony

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Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 4,126

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Originally Posted by SimonStylesTheActo

This would be a big draw in Omaha. In Hold'em it's a rock crusher.

This wouldn't be that big of a draw in omaha lol. A pretty bad one actually. We'd need more cards for the wrap, and preferably the nfd.(at least at full ring omahaha)

I just feel like by leading and betting it increases our chance of getting it in MW. When we c/r we allow others with worse flush draws and some weird straight draws to fold.

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03-19-2012 , 01:55 PM

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wWizardG

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Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,126

grunch

You should lead the flop most of the time, otherwise check/raise.

Leading is better, because it sets up stacks for a shove from you.

ie. You lead out for $20, villain raises to $60, you shove, with plenty of equity.

or. You lead out for $20, villain calls, you play turn accordingly (probably continue betting).

Last edited by wWizardG; 03-19-2012 at 01:58 PM. Reason: pre is fine lol. raising is not imperative.

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03-19-2012 , 02:00 PM

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gobbledygeek

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I'd probably also just call passively preflop.

I think this is a great spot (flush draw, gutshot, overs) to check/raise shorties (were a check/raise would be a shove); we're actually in the lead against most TP type hands. Against deeper stacks I'm not as thrilled with the check/raise because (a) we can be left in an awkward position on the turn OOP if we whiff plus (b) the dead money in the pot doesn't make up for this enough deep. Although with all these outs against TP hands, this might be one of those rare times where I would check/raise a draw OOP deepish and commit on any turn card.

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03-19-2012 , 02:04 PM

#31

metski

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Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 4,600

good post thnx

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03-20-2012 , 01:48 AM

#32

FastPlaySlow

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Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,409

I bet flop, bet a blank turn and check/fold river if I miss. If I hit I value bet accordingly.

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03-24-2012 , 01:07 PM

#33

AnniesBoobs

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Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 206

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Originally Posted by FastPlaySlow

I bet flop, bet a blank turn and check/fold river if I miss. If I hit I value bet accordingly.

I think that's the standard/optimal line to take in this situation

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