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After the flop, you played it perfectly. Raising is terrible. Never ever do that. Raising with 1-pair hands, generally speaking, folds out worse pairs and air and gets him to continue with sets and two pair and the like.

Now call the river. He can be triple barreling. But more likely, he is using his lag image to value own us with AQ/AJ. Well, he thinks he's value owning us.

If he shows up with better it's just a minicooler. We're never folding TPTK for 90bbs when the draws miss, especially against a LAG. The stack sizes, board, and player type make this a very straightforward call.

Agree with this.

I definitely 3bet this pre, but as played, it's a snap call on the river.

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Originally Posted by macktyson

The OP also says LAgtard called down with A6 earlier and lost to AQ so why shouldn't we raise here for value if we have that type of knowledge?

Lag called down, I assume he wasn't leading and getting raised in that hand. A raise from us will almost certainly blow him off his weak hands and bluffs.

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01-09-2015 , 07:05 PM

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ylac

centurion

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 157

3b pre to like 40 to iso lag and build pot IP. Would probably call 4b shove if he does this enough w/AQ,AJ. Pot would be 90, 150 behind, bet like 70, villain may check-raise w/Ax, heart draw, thinking we can have JJ-KK, then we shove. If villain just flats, ship any turn, he calls enough w/Ax given history.

As played must call river we beat Ax, busted FD a lot, esp given small flop bet which doesnt look like set/2p due to 2 hearts. And yeah, raise flop to 55, ship turn.

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01-09-2015 , 09:04 PM

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fitzthetaxman

adept

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 768

I'm just jamming turn. As played, call river.

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01-10-2015 , 01:42 AM

#29

swhogan35

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 110

3bet pre to 40-50. I'd be doing this vs. the LAG with KJs+, 99+, AJs+ and AQo+ vs an UTG raise. This gives you a range that is wide enough vs his range where this is definitely for value. The main reason I do this is because it gets you to avoid this gross spot where he barrels into you and you are guessing. You can take control of the hand, C-bet the flop and call it off if he ships on you. But the other idea is that we are looking at this specific hand scenario where it looks ok to "build a pot to get it in," but what I want to do is be able to bet a lot of flops with a lot of hands in position and pick up the money and not rely on having to hit a flop which doesn't happen that often.

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01-10-2015 , 03:18 AM

#30

au4all

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Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 2,872

There's lots of really bad advice in this thread: Let's raise to find out where we're at

OP, here's a 4 year old thread saying that four years ago that Betting for Information was obsolete. It hasn't gotten better in the last four years.

A good read here: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/15...hought-866278/

The part that's especially relevant to this thread is that the Villain had no idea where he was so that he wasn't likely to give you very good information.

Quote: It folds out worse hands, loses value to better hands, we don't know how reliable the information is, and the info we get usually isn't worth paying for.