1/2 home game generally pretty fishy with a few decent players mixed in and only 1 or 2 people i just try to avoid completely, neither of which are playing right now so i'm pretty comfortable. i have a decent amount of experience playing with the relevant villain in the hand.

hero - button - $260 - late 20's but i look younger and i've been told by regs in the game that i look like a hoodlum but that's stupid i just really like sweatpants and hoodies. i'm a winning player in the game and i've run really good against the right people pretty consistently making me look better than i probably am but i use it to my advantage to bluff when i think i can. i'm generally seen as tight/selective pf and very aggressive postflop if i'm the pf aggressor. more often than not at showdown i have the goods but i have been caught bluffing once or twice in the past.

v1 - bb - covers hero - the relevant villain. azn anywhere from 22-35 who the hell knows but he's a cool guy and a decent player. we've played a good amount together. he generally plays pretty tight but i've seen him make really weird gambly/maybe boredom induced calls preflop. he definitely has a fold button but i wouldn't say he's weak. later in the night he 3 bet folded TT when i opened KK from the button in a straddled pot, he 3bet, i shoved a little over a psb and he thought about it pretty hard for a minute then mucked. doesnt affect this hand in any way obviously but might give you a better idea of how he would typically play against me.

v2 - utg+2 - $43 - never played with him before but i hope to play with him again soon. he is not good.


v2 open limps, two other random limpers, hero makes it $17 with AKhh, v1 calls from bb, v2 shoves $43, folds to hero. are you 4betting or flatting here and why?

I'd 4bet to 100ish and get it in pre. U want this heads up and I want villain 1 to fold 1010-qq here. Ak is still just ace high, u can't trap with it and u proably won't get a lot of action from worse even if u flop top pair against this particular villajn

I'm shipping bc I want to take my AKs against one dude with a bunch of dead chips out there and print money off the lolpotodds + equity we have. No sense in flatting, missing flop and either having to fold, bluff in a protected pot or station dwn with ace high.

Winnar?

Prob want to come over the top again at least a min raise or more to isolate. This could be an iffy spot, but I dont think V1 flats your opener with AA/KK here as there are so many other potential callers still left in hand. Shoving would look the weakest IMO so if you wanted action this might be the way to go. It really depends on your history with polarizing bets in the past.

Of course the flip side of this is flatting since you ONLY have a drawing hand and want to see if V1 goes over the top now. This might be the best way to try to create a side pot but being IP here isnt always the best since the c/r is very possible on a 2 heart board if you try to lead out into a set or overpair.

These are fun spots and I think it really comes down to 'the games' history in these types of spots and only you can know what is typical. Based on stack sizes you are getting pretty committed to the hand even if you min-raise with 'only' a drawing hand and I guess it comes down to whether or not you would fold out to a shove over the top of your min-raise or race against JJ here. I just dont see V1 flatting the $17 with AA/KK ... and then it comes down to how many of your outs might be in the hands of V2. GL

i ended up flatting with the plan of shoving just about any flop that didn't look terrible because i know v1 is never flatting the initial 17 with anything that AK is in bad shape against and he's capable of laying down overpairs to low boards (against me, at least). v1 flats

flop - 9h8d3s

v1 leads 40 into 130ish - hero shoves. is this complete spew?

With Ak raise about 25% of ES if 2-3 limpers in front of you. Just make it big until they all understand when they limp and want to make the nuts for "free" you'll be there to charge a hefty price.

AK

so you're saying i should have made it $65

I raise and try to get this heads up. That is as long as your sure V1 isn't flatting pre with a strong range, which I don't expect after seeing that he's capable of 3b TTs.

AP I think a shove is spew after you just flatted pre since your likely 4b QQs+

if he's never flatting the first raise with QQ+ and most likely folding < QQ to a shove on that kind of flop does it still seem that spewy?

are you just going to fold the flop? i was considering calling and shoving an A, K or heart turn depending on his action but i figured if i was going to do that i might as well get in otf where i felt i had a decent amount of fold equity.

4bet pre. like others have said with the dead money but also you're limiting his combos of AA/KK. make it 90-110 and set up for a flop shove.

I think I just shove. There's already $80 worth of dead money in the middle, that's worth going after. We could also perhaps do a lol small raise to like $100 but if called that would leave us with too small of stacks for much FE postflop if we whiff.

as played what do you think of shoving over the small donk on the flop?