10pm at the local card room, I just arrived, my table is about 8 handed

Hero($290ish) - just sat down not too long ago so no one should have reads on me, first hand I get KK, raise to 15 no callers so meh, other than that blinds, hit me, actually limped for 2 and yea...

V1($300) - black, 50s, seem him limp/call for $10 with K9ss and flop trip 9s against aces and took a c/c,c/c,c/r line and took it down.
V2($150) - only reads old white guy, seen no hands from him
V3($100ish) - black,old, hands I've seen him play clearly just here to gamble

Anyway...

Hero UTG+1 gets AA...raise to 15
V1 next to act raises to 30 😱
V2 MP calls 30 😱😱
Folds to V3 on BTN calls 30
Folds back to hero who....?

Just interested in what people do here, obviously just calling is not an option

Raise to $120, lol @ V3 flatting with $100 stack

Jam.

Say 80 more, raised to $110, all in the the flop whether it's 2, 3, or 4-way.

You must raise here. Anything from $90 to $150 seems fine to me. I'd probably go with a higher variance/max value line and raise to like $100, which ought to commit anyone that calls. Although a jam here could rep JJ-KK in the eyes of your Villains so that's always an option.

OP, you don't describe yourself. If you're in your 20s, wearing a hoodie, and a member of a minority group I'd extra consider the jam AI.

against bigger stacks i'd make it $100 more, but in this case i'd just shove it all and get the decisions over with.

Going for greed, but would min-raising here ever be an option, the hopes that the $100 jams and reopens? Sure, if he doesn't jam, then you're screwed obviously

I'm torn between raising to $120 and shoving.

If you want to see a flop 4-way with AA, this a great move.

would raise to 60, hopefully V3 realizes he better shoves now. if not, meh, no prob going 4 way to the flop with an SPR of 1

Make it $80-90 to go...I would rather take down the pot right there than mess around going multiway with Aces.

You don't want to think about it this way. As long as we raise enough to pot-commit ourselves on the flop, we gain EV from each additional caller that comes in - because no matter what they hold, our hand is a huge favorite! Yes, we'll win a lower % of the time overall, but we'll win far more when we do.

Our goal here is to raise enough to pot-commit ourselves, but not much more - because we're gaining so much equity with each caller. If we assume we'll get 1 caller, a raise to $80 will make the pot $265 with $195 behind - great, this is an SPR under 1 and we can shove without regret.

Can we do better?

If we assume there'll be more than 1 caller, even a 2x raise to $60 gives us a low enough SPR to shove the flop blind (pot will be $225-285 with $215 behind). I actually kind of like this play, because it gives the villain sitting on $150 an opportunity to make a bad fold OTF for his last $90 given pot odds. (Remember, we're shoving there no matter what, so give your opponents opportunities to make mistakes.)

Bottom line: bet only as much as you're 100% sure at least one person will call. If that's $100 or $120, great. If it's only $60, no biggie. Because more callers = more Sklansky bucks.

I don't think that's a problem here. 1 player would have $40 left, another $90 and another $240. Pot will be $240. So we'd be shoving every single flop anyway.

In saying that I'd make it 100ish and shove all flops.

Id raise to $150.

I'm embarrassed to admit how light I'd be willing to call a guy with that image down in this situation. I'm talking like 87s light.

Note to self: I think I found a leak.

we're going for the highest +ev play here. from the posts here, it seems everyone is more concerned about getting it heads up or taking it down the pot. i WANT all of them to call. 3bet to $75 to $80 here. with the stacks as they are, you WANT them all to call. not folding on any flop either
note that if everyone had $300 to start, id 3bet to $90 or so

If you are going to take that road you absolutely must absolutely positively make any potential f-it shove from gambooly V3 to re-open the action. Make it $65. Again, if you take this route. My preference would be to make it $100-$110 and jam all flops.

Why give your opponents profitable calls to break you? Total donk move. V3 has shown he doesn't understand commitment to the pot by cold calling 30% of his stack, and now you hope he shoves for you? Lol.

OP : Raise to $110 and GII on every single flop.

Pot committed

Jack : We raise to $50, hoping V3 shoves so we can reshove. All we get is an extra $40 from V1/V2 if they muck after that. However, V3 is not going to shove. He's going to call and see if he hits the flop, because that's what he does. "Pot committed" is for internet kids and tourney donks, not him.

Instead we should just make it $110 because a reraiser and 2 coldcallers certainly have to have more than just napkins in front of them. And even if they just have napkins, they might YOLO it. This is $1/2 NL

One hundo. Shove any flop.

These are the decisions we all dream about at night. 100 and shove the flop. It gives the chance for other highish pairs like JJ+ and Ak tocall. All hands we crush. Most of the SC's fold out unless they are nuts.

LOL to the minraise. There is 100 in the pot already. You want more money in but not to 3 different middling hands. you want the premium hands to call.
Stacks are way to shallow to try to to get max value here.

I'm just a kid with a dream, though.

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So KK7 you still shove? With the stack sizes at hand I just get it in now pre-flop