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02-05-2014 , 10:08 AM
Beluga is for the turn where draws are less likely, so yes we are ignoring it.

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02-05-2014 , 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by iraisetoomuch
Someone want to give me a range of hands that we are beating here?
If villain is actually steaming about the last hand, AQ / KQ / QJ / QT / KK / JJ / 86 / 64, various diamond draws. Possibly even things like TT / 99 / 76 / 65 if really tilted hard. Combo draws are behind right now but better then 50/50 to get their by river.

This is why I think the key question here is exactly how steaming villain is. If he is outright titled there are a lot of hands hero beats. If he isn't, then AQ and KK are the only likely hands hero beats. I would expect villain to call to wide preflop if steaming a bit, but fold most flops when he misses. I'm not putting him on a stupid aggro tilted range without more evidence.
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02-05-2014 , 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by QuadJ
If villain is actually steaming about the last hand, AQ / KQ / QJ / QT / KK / JJ / 86 / 64, various diamond draws. Possibly even things like TT / 99 / 76 / 65 if really tilted hard.
+ some % air if he really is tilted, giving the logic of "I put your on ACEKING!" or some other moron logic that prevails at tables.

Look at the action, BTN squeezes, 2 callers, flop checks around to raiser who cbets a pretty good cbetting board.

I'd go so far in ranging villain also could have any pair, even something as wildly ridonkulous as A5s with no flush draw, if he is truly tilting, just making a play for the pot thinking we have nothing.
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02-05-2014 , 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by johnny_on_the_spot
Look at the action, BTN squeezes...
Verses a LAG player - it's a button squeeze.
Verses a TAG player - it's a pre-flop bet.

This is where the OP's image is vital to how V might play us.
Based on the previous hand, OP seems to be a tight, solid player who's not overly aggressive... plus, unwilling to lay down hands that have showdown potential.

You think V is going to try and bluff that?
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02-05-2014 , 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by sauhund
with these stack sizes, i would rather jam every time with AA/KK on such a board texture than even trying to get reads...
please come play at our tables.
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02-05-2014 , 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by HiroNakamara
You think V is going to try and bluff that?
Have you ever been drunk?!?

Drunk people do stupid, irrational things all the time.
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02-05-2014 , 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by johnny_on_the_spot
Have you ever been drunk?!?

Drunk people do stupid, irrational things all the time.
according to OP, villain isn't drunk. He's visibly upset about getting rivered. But still seems to be playing a good game.
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02-05-2014 , 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by HiroNakamara
according to OP, villain isn't drunk. He's visibly upset about getting rivered. But still seems to be playing a good game.
Hey look at that, I posted about a different hand in a different thread! Sorry about that.
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02-05-2014 , 08:20 PM
Villain is not drunk but he is heated about the previous hand. I was playing much tighter than the rest of the table. V was loose pre but typically was showing down decent hands if he went to showdown. I think by check calling flop and turn on the previous hand,V is not viewing me a good player if that helps.

The issue I had with this was, is he doing this to value own me or to push me off of one pair? Being that he was still upset, I was leaning more towards pushing me off my hand.
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02-06-2014 , 02:50 AM
Results?
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02-06-2014 , 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by NoReads TimeToJam
The issue I had with this was, is he doing this to value own me or to push me off of one pair? Being that he was still upset, I was leaning more towards pushing me off my hand.
Could be either, this is something you just have to learn to read at the table. I wouldn't put a decent villain on any real tilt after one suck out hand, but I don't know what history there was at the game. It is possible he was tilting, there are a few bad regulars I play who are decent when playing their A game but tilt at the drop of a hat. Most of the regulars take a lot more to tilt though. It is far more common that they get a little steamed and start making loose calls preflop but give up when they miss the flop.

You also have to watch out for villains who are angle shooting here, pretending to be steaming so they are more likely to get paid when hit a set.
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02-06-2014 , 11:28 AM
Result:

After V raised me, I went into the tank. I think he was doing this with sets, JJ, 10s, flush draws, straight draws, and maybe 10 percent air.

I jam after a minute and he hesitantly calls. He tables 57 and his two pair holds up.
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02-06-2014 , 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by NoReads TimeToJam
Result:

After V raised me, I went into the tank. I think he was doing this with sets, JJ, 10s, flush draws, straight draws, and maybe 10 percent air.

I jam after a minute and he hesitantly calls. He tables 57 and his two pair holds up.
Gross but right play.
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