Been playing for five hours, have a good image, losing a small amount.

Villain 1: UTG +1, $450
Villain 2: HJ, $60
Hero is UTG $275 with AA

Pre:

Hero raises to $10, four players call.

Pot = $50.

Flop: Q33

Hero bets $20, Villain 1 calls, Villain 2 raises to $50, Hero calls, Villain 1 calls.

Villain 1 does some hemming and hawing, could be a three acting, but I feel confident it's a bad Q or clubs. When he gets two callers Villain 2 looks pretty sad, almost definitely a Q. Could 3-bet, but that seems bad, want a Q to come along and don't want to inflate the pot for a three.

Pot = $200

Turn: 7

Hero bets $100. Villain 1 calls.

A shove would be a PSB, and maybe the right move? I dunno. He agonizes for a minute and makes the call, saying "one more time". He definitely has clubs.

Pot= $400

River: 8

Hero dies inside and checks. Villain 1 bets $75.

He has clubs. He has clubs. He has clubs. 6.3:1 tho. Hero calls. Villain shows K2 and wins the pot as hero rage quits because he doesn't play when he's tilted.

if your sizing on the flop was selected so the shortstack could raise and open the door for you to 3 bet why are we not 3 betting the flop?

after v1 overcalls and doesnt backraise given the flop action, he pretty much never has a 3. you have 215 left and there is 200 in the pot. fistpump jam.

mistake on the flop compounds on the turn.

how generous of villian to let you keep 40 dollars on the river.

Hand was played fine, IMO. Your turn bet was perfect against his most likely draw. Pocket your Sklansky bucks, say NH, and rebuy.

A guy who will draw twice at a flush on a paired board is just holding your money for a little bit, he'll give it back....very soon.

The only thing tilting about this hand is that you did not find a way to ship the turn. Bet more on flop. 3-bet small as played. Ship the turn. Profit. Ranges are so heavily weighted to Qx and clubs it's not funny.

As it is you could have almost shoved ott. But betting more pf and otf would have made it an easy shove.

I guess V2 folded ott?

Doesn't matter that you're getting 6.3:1, if you think he has the flush at least 87% of the time (and you seem to think so 100%), math dictates a fold.

V2 was AI OTF.

Sorry OP, but your line is pretty bad from soup to nuts, IMO.

Preflop your sizing is way too small as evidenced by the fact that you got 4 callers. I think $16-20 would have been better.

On the flop... pot it! Its a great flop for you, and you have a whole table full of villains. Bet $50-70.

Its so very unlikely for anyone to have a 3. Why? Because the 3 and 3 are out and you have the A and A. Which means that the only real 3 they could have is the A3. Literally just 1 combo of 3's to be worried about.

But the vast majority of the time, they're not going to have a 3, and with 4 opponents in the hand, its no time to get fancy. Bombs away.

As played, why on earth did you not 3b the flop? Sure, I don't much like the small bet, but if you did it to induce a spazz out, then you've got it. Now 3b to $150 (or AI).

On the turn... after the flop drama, I'm shoving all day. Ok, Mr. Flush Draw... time to put up or shut up. Basically, you want to get all the money in here if possible so that he cannot fold on the river when he misses his FD.

As played on the river its a snap call when he does the tiny little bet, but yeah... he always has the flush.

I don't think I'm good enough at poker to ever be that confident in anything.

I felt that I could get him to define his hand, and knowing that he wouldn't fold a draw easily based on a couple of other hands he played, if he flat called I could get away from a turn club easily, or extract value then with only one card left to come., meaning clubs only get one chance to cost me a pot of the same size. That was my thought process. Everyone seems to be in agreement that I should have shoved the turn.

Very good analysis

Only thing missing is not reminding OP he should have had a plan for the aces before he made the bet pre-flop

PF seems fine ... Dont know the dynamics of the table if you open for more, but V did call $10 w K2s to your immediate left. If you had been at table for 5 hours then you probably shouldve known that a larger raise was in order perhaps ... or he had a read on you somehow. You really want this guy in the hand as others have suggested.

Flop is tough also. I like the idea of keeping the larger stack in the pot but if that is the plan then c-bet bigger. $20 seemed pretty weak and keeps the draws in EVERY time. I wouldve considered $24-25 so I could 3-bet the all-in depending on additional actions.

Turn is an 'over-bet' (or no bet) spot since any River bet is probably going to be called by QX if non-club anyway. You got some 'extra' value in the main pot already .. price out the draws and see what happens HU with short stack.

Your bet sizing invited the draws and your instinct was correct but you didn't follow it .. I can understand why you were upset but you 'know' what you did ...

The same line next time might get you paid .. poker is timing and the cards dont always cooperate. GL

Bigger raise PF, bigger bet on flop, 4 bet all-in if he doesn't raise you AI first. Since you just called villains raise on the flop, you should have shoved on the turn. Betting more on the flop may have gotten V2 to shove on you before the flop as well.

I agree with lapidator that someone showing up to the party with a 3 here is going to be low, but not low enough to be completely discounted (maybe 10% here). Your stack is too shallow for him to play something like 43s here as well, though there are 1/2 players that will have this hand in this spot. This is part of the reason why we are advocating a bigger pre-flop raise, to get rid of players who will play small suited connectors in multi-way pots for a smaller raise.

Not specifically true, IMO.

The reason to raise bigger preflop is primarily because we have the nuts and folks will call bigger bets, so in this spot, with these stack sizes, we want to bloat up the pot as much as possible preflop.

While it's nice to thin the field, and it is a valid goal and reason for a larger bet preflop, it is only secondarily to the fact that we're betting for value. So as you say, it is part of the reason, but not the main part.

Secondly, even a 10% chance is way bigger then the actual chance someone shows up with a 3 here. I don't have time to do an analysis of how likely it is that someone has a 3 here given that they only would pay [32s, 43s, A3s and K3s], but it is tiny given the rest of the hands they'd play.

Maybe we can get bip! to answer authoritatively with a bit of math here?

ETA: and even if villain's range is possibly as wide as [32s, 43s, A3s, K3s], he's not going to 'always' play all these combos all the time anyway so we need to reduce them to begin with. So maybe he only plays 43s and 32s 1/3 of the time, K3s 1/2 the time and A3s all of the time, etc...

Of course. I only mention it because good players should consider Hero's SPR (a little over 5) here is not ideal for getting in this pot with a suited 3.