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05-31-2014 , 10:01 AM
Hey guys!

Loose passive drunk limpy game. 4 hours into session.

Hero/UTG(650) Young 20s white, has been somewhat loose and passive pre limping alot of hands but playing tight and aggro post value betting relentlessly.

V1/UTG+1(400) MAWG drunk, friendly, and slowwwwww. Never knows where the action is and holding the game up. makes up for the reduced speed by playing super loose and stationy. Have seen him peel 2 streets chasing gutters. Have seen him call down multiple streets with second pair. Rarely raises and have never seen him 3b.

V2/MP(100) Young 30s black fellow. Bombed drunk. Won 3-4k in the pit and is donating it back to the poker community. has played 2 prior hands. one in were he bet 25 pre before the cards were dealt and shoved the flop. and the second where he shoved all in for 100 in the blind. Has just reloaded 100.


HERO opens AA for 20 (this is large for this game)

V1 3b to 40
V2 Ships 100 (pretty sure he hasn't looked at his cards)
HERO?
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05-31-2014 , 11:08 AM
Make it 200, shove any flop I guess.
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05-31-2014 , 11:10 AM
Why reraise the station? Flat and commit on any flop.

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05-31-2014 , 11:11 AM
Flat hoping v1 5bets. As described, he's definitely coming along if you don't raise. Fast play the flop though, shove or bet 100 then ship OTT.
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05-31-2014 , 11:13 AM
Ship it. V1 probably won't fold after min 3 betting preflop and it gives you the best chance of getting V1 all in.

If your really sure V1 will call wider now and wider on flop, then calling might be slightly higher +EV. It is going to be way higher variance though and against most villains lower EV.
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05-31-2014 , 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by velker
Why reraise the station? Flat and commit on any flop.

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Uh, how about bc we have the nuts and he's a station.
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05-31-2014 , 01:31 PM
Easiest tank flat ever. Description of station implies that he will never fold any piece of the flop. This doesn't mean he will snap a huge jam pre. If we call he will jam over to isolate probably pretty wide. Obv if he just calls then b/c any flop.
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05-31-2014 , 01:46 PM
This seems like a flat. I am curious as why people think you should re raise? This type of player is never going to fold on the flop and will have a very hard time getting away from anything with a pot of this size. Raising only gives him a chance to get out of the hand for 40.
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05-31-2014 , 01:52 PM
why do you assume he won't make mistakes pre but def. will postflop? I say allow him to make his mistake now
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05-31-2014 , 01:58 PM
Of course the guy is going to make mistakes on every street, but even the worst player can realize at times when it goes raise, re raise, re raise, re raise than maybe he should fold KQ or A10. I just don't see the guy getting away from much once the pot is 300 with only 300 behind.
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05-31-2014 , 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by thenextlevel1
Of course the guy is going to make mistakes on every street, but even the worst player can realize at times when it goes raise, re raise, re raise, re raise than maybe he should fold KQ or A10. I just don't see the guy getting away from much once the pot is 300 with only 300 behind.
I don't think this guy ever has AT or KQ,

I don't think AT is even in his raising range let alone 3b range.

This 3b range is super nitty. JJ+ and SOMETIMES AKs when hes feeling frisky.
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05-31-2014 , 02:31 PM
Well this is new info. If he has a super tight 3b range then yes just jam and he will put you on ak and call with any pair.. Ez game. In my earlier post I was just trying to keep like kq and at in like that other guy said.

Edit: I guess I should have read closer that he rarely 3b. My bad
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05-31-2014 , 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by de4df1sh
I don't think this guy ever has AT or KQ,

I don't think AT is even in his raising range let alone 3b range.

This 3b range is super nitty. JJ+ and SOMETIMES AKs when hes feeling frisky.
Well if his 3 bet range is that small then that I am confused why you are asking the correct line on this as he will never fold those hands. I still believe players like this are capable on doing weird 3 bet min raises randomly, but you were at the table so you would know better than I.
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05-31-2014 , 08:14 PM
His 3b range is premiums and he is a station, 4b/GII.
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05-31-2014 , 10:00 PM
I would raise to $250 total. If v1 wants to shove or see a flop for that much then he's more than welcome to. I think a flat is a mistake here and prices in v1 too much because he could easily play ATC with decent implied odds.
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05-31-2014 , 10:17 PM
If his 3-bet range is small, he is drunk, and just 3bet, I think hes ready to get that money in pre. I would go ahead and 4-bet and just try to GII now.
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06-01-2014 , 09:22 AM
[*] Drunk[*] Loose[*] Never 3bets, but does here

Get it in with a 400 raise.
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