V1: $120 stack - Sticky fish, will chase backdoors and won't fold pairs/gutshots. Hits top pairs and just goes with it. Playing every pot.
V2: $300 stack - Donkey type, opened A7o utg one hand and triple barreled on KQJr board into KQ in a 4waypot. Limps 94o on the button. Playing almost every pot.
Hero: $600+ with an extremely tight image, playing straight up top 15% of starting hands, wont even complete in the sb in a limped pot with ATo/KJo as the tables limping range consists of AQs/JJ. Can't squeeze light in later position as hands are getting to showdown way too often.

OTTH: V1 & V2 limped UTG & UTG +1 and i look down at A♣A♠, usually would make it closer to the 5x+(1x for every limper) $14 range but against these 2 i don't mind making it bigger pre to extract value while i know i'm ahead so i make it $25 in the CO.

Flop is Q♣J♣4♣ (Pot: $78)

V1 leads $30 and V2 calls and when i concentrated on V1 & V2's reaction to the flop i feel V2 has a monster(2 pair plus) as he did the full eyeroll/sigh when the flop comes out so i just flat. Usually overpair with the nut flush draw i'm more than happy to rip it in.

Turn comes 7 (Pot: $168)

V1 continues for $30 and V2 once again flats and Hero just takes the good pot odds and read of V2's hand strength and just flat. My logic: If im in front, villains are drawing thin. If im behind im getting great odds to catch up.

River comes 3♠, V1 jams for $35, V2 flats and Hero makes a snap call getting like 8:1.

Will post results later, but how does everyone feel about the small ball approach to this hand?

I like this hand, shame we're usually toast OTR against v1 but lol odds = call.

Played fine

Well played. Glad they kept is so cheap, although sometimes you want them to just jam so you can fold and save the extra few bucks.

We should look to get stacks in against these two Villains. Kc is never folding to a flop raise, and we have 14 outs against QJ (any A, any club, and any 4) making us a slight favorite.

Hero missed value by not raising the flop.

I'd have to know how strong your read on V2 is. It's a crime not to get all your chips in if there's any reasonable chance he has worse.

I take it you're reading the eye roll/sigh as feigning weakness, but I'm not sure that makes sense on this board. If he has a set or top two, is he really happy with this board to the point where he would pretend to be weak? And if he has a flush, we know it's not the nut flush, so most villains are going to be worried about a fourth club.

I think particularly when V1 bets so small on the turn and V2 just calls, for a second time, you can raise with some confidence (and with several outs if you're wrong).

I just realized you have the nut-flush draw. Duh. I might just rip it in on flop regardless of my read on V2 unless I'm 100 percent on my read.

Turn/river still fine.

Your line was too weak relative to both pot-size and players described, you all ready know you are willing to play for v1s entire stack so your primary focus is maximizing value from v2

Calling the flop isn't awful in a vacuum but does put you in a pretty awkward spot on a lot of turns if v2 ships it, getting it all in on the flop is never going to be a big mistake while you could make much larger ones on certain turns

On the turn the bet is too small relative to the pot size to let villain 2 draw cheaply again, whether to hit 2 pair or a straight, you should raise, if you do not like this line then just raise the flop

As played, calling the river is fine

Nh. Normally By raising cause we are sorta bluffing. Kind of a weird range merge. But against this villain raising seems ok for value. Maybe even good, given his tendecy to go with top pair. But I like the small ball approach. We dont have a particularly vulnerable hand, and have showdown value.

If it was heads up against V1 with 60BB effective i'd be happy to rip it in on the flop, but with read of V2 and his 150BB stack I chose the more conservative approach, as my hand isn't all too vulnerable and drawing to the nuts on the off chance i'm behind. As played, V1 river a set with 33, V2 had 65. Pretty stoked i lost the minimum to V2, fist pumping inside that i didn't double him up. If V2 had my Aces and i flopped the flush, i know i'd stack him so that softens the 60BB loss.

grunch: i think i would have played it exact same. good price. scary board for a wide range.