1/2 new table

Hero: BTN, 200
V1: SB, 80-100
V2: MP, 100-120

5 way limped pot, Hero has 77 OTB

Flop ($10): 644cc
Checks to V2 who bets $10, Hero and V1 call

Turn ($40): 9h
V1 checks, V2 checks, Hero ?

Ck it and fold if another penny goes in.

No thin value from draws and 6x after both check?

I'm betting for value/protection here esp IP. It's going to be hard to bluff-catch rivers or call rivers and we have the best hand here OTT so often we only really lose to a 9x type hand.

If we check we are just done with the hand pretty much, like we aren't bluff-catching any/most rivers anyway...

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9 shouldn't hit V2, and V1 shouldn't be calling flop with any 9x in his range besides 9 combos for FD.

I think if we do bet for value of course/protection we will get called by worse a lot being a 6x type hand so i think betting is perfectly fine and +EV. Also we get villain's to fold hands with decent PE vs. our hand like 1 over + FD which is good i'm just going to make it 30 here.

Is there a read that has kept you from raising pre?

No but I think 77 is a standard limp otb in a MW pot?

Maybe I'm wrong, but with two limpers I'm raising this from the button to get it heads up or at least 3 way, because in a limped pot you could be up against any random 4x from the SB and BB. I think we can proceed with more clarity if we make a raise pre.

Okay so I just raised 77 in co over 2 limpers (V2 to my immediate right this time due to seat change)... BTN and V2 call

Eff stacks are $200

Flop ($50): AJJccs
V2 checks, Hero bets $30, BTN folds, V2 raises to $80

You see what happens with a hand like 77?

urighturight

There was a bet and an overcall otf in a limped pot which should thin out whatever perceived benefit a pbet might yield, check it down and raise sometimes pre

But we're on the button... anyway, say we make it $12. We're checking this flop, and releasing to a bet still only losing $12, but feeling fine about it and not faced with an awkward turn decision.

Wow results oriented much?

As for the hand in question I'm betting $25-30 on the turn.

Betting for value here... we have position. If we get 1 caller or even 2, we can expect them to check through on the river. If they lead, we're likely way behind even from the flop. (i.e. maybe a flush gets there on the river, someone slow played their 4). I don't expect many 9's to bet the river in a standard 1/2 game. I expect any hand like A6, 6 w/ a flush draw, naked flush draws to call another turn bet. Protection/value on turn... don't like just checking.

The play just seems too passive.

Pre - I'd normally raise here ... the objective would be to get it heads up or 3 way. Then cbet most flops. You're mostly in the lead here with best position. But checking isn't horrible - you're looking for a set or flop under 7.

OTF. As played... great flop. No real reason to expect Villain to have a 4x here... more likely a FD or straight draw. Raise to 35 or so.

OTT. If you still have any callers - I'd fire my last bullet with that 9 turn. Price out the draws. Check back river if it comes to that.