The best sizing is confusing here. Is it $4 straddle and $8 double straddle? When CO opens to 4BB do you mean he called the $8 or did he raise to $32? How deep are you and villain?
For the most part though with a double straddle you have to be very deep before you goal isn't to get all of your money in with KK. Having an SPR > 5 on the flop would require some really deep stacks.
All of which doesn't really matter on the river. The only reason to take this sort of line on your part was to induce some bluffs from your opponent. It would be bad to fold river given how the hand played out.
The best sizing is confusing here. Is it $4 straddle and $8 double straddle? When CO opens to 4BB do you mean he called the $8 or did he raise to $32? How deep are you and villain?
For the most part though with a double straddle you have to be very deep before you goal isn't to get all of your money in with KK. Having an SPR > 5 on the flop would require some really deep stacks.
All of which doesn't really matter on the river. The only reason to take this sort of line on your part was to induce some bluffs from your opponent. It would be bad to fold river given how the hand played out.
OK. And effective stacks? And when you say 110bb, do you mean $220 (the actual BB)? It seems not, since you say V opened to 4bb and call it $40ish, so I assume you actually mean 4x the double-straddle. Does that mean that the rest of your bb refs are also actually double-straddles and V bet over $1K OTR?
OK. And effective stacks? And when you say 110bb, do you mean $220 (the actual BB)? It seems not, since you say V opened to 4bb and call it $40ish, so I assume you actually mean 4x the double-straddle. Does that mean that the rest of your bb refs are also actually double-straddles and V bet over $1K OTR?
I started the hand with 220bb and V with 190bb
And yes i meant Bb in double straddle
OK, that's not a bb, so you're confusing everybody. I know this probably isn't in USD, but it'll be a lot simpler to just estimate the USD equivalent (or post it in the local currency if it's even close to 1-1, like Euros or pounds)
So is this approx correct?
1/2/5/10
Effective stacks 1900, hero covers.
V (in the double-straddle) is solid player who also views hero as solid
CO opens to 40, hero 3bets to 160 from the straddle with KsKh and V 4bets to 400 from double straddle. CO folds, hero calls.
Pot: 1480
River 8x
Hero checks and villain bets 1100. (leaving less than 100 behind, or is this a shove that just doesn't show that way due to estimation errors?)
Ok, even with $10 effective blinds (which is the right way to look at it) villain's $1900 stack makes villain's SPR < 2 on the flop. Villain's betting pattern is suspicious but you can't fold KK with SPR that low unless you are totally confident villain only bets AA this way and that can't be true of a solid player.
Once villain 4 bets to $400 preflop this is really pretty straightforward. If villain is actually a solid player you can't pin him on aces only tight enough to fold so the only question is the best way to get money from worse hands. Shoving preflop is probably a bit too aggro given the situation but your passive call down sequence is too passive unless you have history that villain will bluff too often. Flop check is fine but you should lead turn after flop checks around. If villain has given up there is no reason to let him draw to hitting a set or catching an ace for free.
This is really confusing to follow. Please use dollar amounts, not BBs and please include stack sizes.
I don't get just flatting the 4-bet pre but I don't know how deep you are.
Your line postflop seems really bad. What was your plan on the flop? Were you going to check-raise? Check-calling the flop seems bad. Check-calling the turn is worse.
The passive, weak way you played this hand means you have to call the river but your mistakes started long before the river.
Easy call on river. I'm actually fine with calling down. If we are ahead, it's the only good way to get money in. He's probably folding everything we beat the minute we bet.
Definitely just use $, add effective stacks, and put pot sizes on each street in future hands.
