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1/2 250 bb pot he c/r the river 1/2 250 bb pot he c/r the river

03-01-2015 , 11:29 AM
Hero (500)
V1 (260)
V2 (400)
V3 (200)

V1 reads: Can barely see cards. Keeps standing up to make out the flop. I have not seen him bluff. Has played big hands passively. He did raise top pair no kicker
in a hurrendous spot and got lucky to suck out. There was one hand where he did not 3-bet KK preflop. Overall, he is bad.

*Other 2 players are pretty much insignificant for this hand.

Hero (UTG) limps AJ
V2 (UTG+1) raises to 10
V3 call
V1 (SB) call
Hero call

Flop (40)

J 4 7

checks around

Turn (40)

J 4 7 8

V1 check, Hero bet 27, V2 fold, V3, fold, V1 call

River (95)

J 4 7 8 A

V1 check, Hero bet 50, V1 raise all in for 169 on top.

*cost 169 to win 369

Hero?
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03-01-2015 , 12:11 PM
Couple things: I don't love AJo OOP. Is the game loose and passive? With AJ UTG, folding >raising >limping. Then, when action gets raised, this hand is so often dominated. But given that you close the action pf, I'd call too.
OTF: this is a great flop for you. Are you looking to check raise? Unless you're pretty sure V will bet, I think you want to bet here and make money with TPTK.
As played, sizing for the turn bet is ok. Board is now draw heavy so you're likely to get action. I might have bet a big bigger.
On river, you're beating so many hands, I think this is a pretty easy call. Do you put V on T9 or 65? I don't know if he would wait until river to check raise those hands or pull the trigger on the turn. I think he's going to turn over A8 most of the time here and you take the pot with top two pair. I don't think V is bluffing here but I do think it's likely he is over-valuing a two pair hand like aces up and your top two is good.
Depending on read of villain, if you think that there's a chance that he could be slow playing a straight here, then it's either check behind on river or bet fold, and I really don't like bet fold with top two in this spot.
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03-01-2015 , 12:12 PM
Limp calling AJ (utg) is a mistake, it is not a profitable hand OOP. Expecially at loose passive low-light games.

It is super hard to get max value when we are good. Easy to lose a ton when we are behind. Probably should fold pre. I do raise it often. However, I don't think it is very profitable, unless you have a tight image and can win quite often with cbet (table dynamics).

As to your question.

Lose to 16 combos of 56 (is 56 offsuit in his range?)
Lose to roughly 18 set combos

Beat 28-30 combos of 2 pair.
So we beat 28 hands and lose to 34. Given the dead money, we easily have odds to call. He should also have some badly played AK, AQ, (going from your reads). So make the call.

You need to start watching people's lines. If you know how he would play flopped sets, and 2 pair. You can start to narrow his range even more.

If he turned straight would he raise the turn? Would he raise turn with sets? Those are questions you need to know, to make informed decisions.
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03-01-2015 , 02:27 PM
Don't limp/call with AJ UTG. Your hand and position are far too weak to profitably play. I fold AJ UTG in a typical loose-passive 10-handed game. I might raise if most villains fold pre flop and I'm likely to get heads up.

I think you played the rest of the hand fine. I would call the river raise. Any hand that beats you should have bet/raised on the flop or turn.
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03-01-2015 , 04:04 PM
Fold, we are chopping at best.

This hand is misplayed on every-street except River bet/fold with top two.

Turn is a check back on coordinated board.
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03-01-2015 , 04:12 PM
Fold pre. Weirdly played hand by V. Fold river.
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03-01-2015 , 04:40 PM
Fold pre, bet more on the turn and the river, call now. Villain has a ton of strong losing hands in his range, and very few villains will check a set on the turn after the flop checked around, especially on this board.
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03-01-2015 , 05:02 PM
Snap the river.
To many worse Ax 2p hands in his range.
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03-01-2015 , 11:44 PM
Snap call.
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03-02-2015 , 08:27 AM
thanks guys i appreciate it.
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03-02-2015 , 01:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sebastes Pinneger
Turn is a check back on coordinated board.
please don't troll strategy threads.


Fold pre both times. Bet flop. Bet turn a bit bigger. Call it off now.
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