History with only villain: V1 is a mid 20's guy playing with a VPIP of 90+. He is one seat to the left of me and has called literally all of my pre-flop raises, something like 10 in a row or so. It's always an insta-call (he is quite loose against others as well, for example with 1 MP limper and a button raise to $12 from a tightish player, he calls in BB with 52o.

He's been owning me pretty much but I am pretty sure he was holding over me. I felt like I could read him post-flop pretty well, although the one thing I was unsure of is if he could make moves or if he just is a raise-means-I-have-it guy. I leaned towards the latter as I b/f OP's to him.

So he's won 2 pretty big pots for 1/2 in a row against me, 1 4 hands ago and 1 the hand before. I had been raising a lot in the last 30 minutes, enough that a tighty 3 seats to my left was openly complaining about me raising every hand.

10-handed, Hero in UTG + 2 ($520) raises to $12 with XX. V1 (covers) thinks about 3-betting a normal-looking amount, but then just looks at the dealer and says "$500" after about 5 seconds. Hero can profitably call with what??

I'll give my actual hand and results later.

Other notes: he had never 3-bet me before. I could only remember a couple of 3-bets he had made, one in BB against an UTG open to $7 and a button caller, he 3-bet to $17 total (both folded lol). Also, with a stack of $85 and an EP limper, he flatted my MP raise to $12 with KK.

Dude is a ******. This is a question more of what you're willing to gambool with. I'm sure as hell not folding KK, probably not QQ either. Depends on how much gambool I got in me and how dumb this guy is.... I could go lower.

KK+

I just dont see how I can get involved. We have nothing invested in relation to the pot and its so out of character. He flatted KK earlier.... Just dont get it, I guess he likes pressing random buttons. I suck vs these villains, but I just dont see how it can be profitable to call this spaz overshove off with less than KK. Just let him have it if you have less than KK

I don't even want to call with KK

but I am

AA, KK and 87suited (if you don't mind a hero gamble and are going to reload).

ATC and don't forget to remind him about the sexual qualities of his mother when you suck out

OT: KK+

Kk plus but not loving kk. Usually they have aa here and give their I got them cracked five times yesterday do wanted to bet a lot speech

AA

Guy is clearly special. In these cases I'm not really willing to give a range without being there to judge the weirdness myself. Like this is his first spazz pre but I'd definitely still take into account all the history post which we don't really have.

Also, how is quite a good read = not knowing whether he ever bluffs or always has it!?!?!?

I'd say I'm 100% sure this is for value but what spazztastic value range is really read dependent. This situation is really not common enough to go with a "player pool" type answer, especially since he is not just a preflop aggrotard by the sounds of things.

Long post to say "I don't know" :-(

what did u have OP. i put u on TTs or Jacks

I feel like this is AA or some random garbage hand. The guy sounds like a complete fish so I'm not thrilled about calling this with many hands when were 250bb deep and can get in much more profitable situations against villain.

Just give him the $12... next hand.

i think he has 1010-qq/ak more than aa/kk here im calling qq+ and not even thinking about it. if the ****** wants to bet $500 w aa/kk and he has it well good for him, because i wait days to get AA/KK and i dont waste them like that

I could tell whether he had top pair or a worse pair/draw which I consider to be a good read. I knew his post-flop tendencies with a made hand but was unsure if he could make moves. However I assumed he couldn't which I think was probably right.

Results:

Oh ya V1's hand:

yeah ak is definitely a fold there. AK is a hand you want to be shoving or committing with, not calling.

Well this is like always a pair for sure, i´ve seen donks play 99 like this. Or JJ. I guess AK is an easy fold, and i like the AA-KK-89s range mentioned earlier but i would include QQ and maybe 57s just to put him on life tilt.

has anyone else had this leak before or is it just me

So this dude is going to constantly call all your bets, DIDNT 3bet KK earlier, and you want to know what to do in response to a 250bb shove?

wat?

Fold and just hammer away at him, his luckbox will run out and vpip 90 = certain loss of money.

Calling for "information" is horrible. I'm not going to go so far as to say to NEVER pay for info, but $500 to see his hole cards when you're (at best) in a race or (at worst) dominated seems like gambling heavy to me.

Sometimes, you don't mind "gambling", such as shoving from EP with TT. You very well may get called, and while badly behind a low percentage of the time, the rest of the time is almost always a race. Even if you're 55/45 to win, do you want that small of an edge when shoving?

The fact that he never 3 bet you before and did it so strongly and loudly should have indicated that he wasn't play 72o. I'm thinking AT LEAST TT, and probably QQ+. So, against TT,JJ,QQ,KK,AA, and AK, you're dominated twice, tying once, and racing (from the back) 3 times. All of this to save your $12 raise.

Having raked your decision across the coals, no, you're not the only idiot that has done this. I've done stuff just as stupid and it cost me too. The fact that men cannot physically kick themselves in the nuts has saved me lots of pain. However, a quick trip to the restroom where you look in the mirror and ask why you should be allowed to breathe is sometimes in order. Now, screw your head back on and go get your money back!

One final thought. The results don't matter! I like to see the results, but even if the idiot turned over 72o, you should both kick each other in the nuts and you're still the same level of idiot, just one with 1000 instead of 0.