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1/2-0 S-NHLE and a Team of Calling Stations 1/2-0 S-NHLE and a Team of Calling Stations

09-02-2013 , 02:27 PM
What are strategies for dealing with multiple calling stations?

(cliffs: should have gone for a table change but any feedback welcome)

Actors - 10 handed game
  • Hero - Vacationing in Colorado and a complete unknown to this game; $2-100 spread limit where big bet/raise is $100 increments unless heads up. Apparently there is no true NHLE in the state. Hero is in seat 1.
  • Calling Stations - A group of four guys sitting in seats 5,6,7,8 who are not friends but are very friendly, talkative towards each other; # 7 & 8 are most competent players
Game Dynamic

Hero comes into an established game as 10th player. Almost every hand was a limped pot with 5-7 villains; looks like 50-70% of hands are being played, flops would get small bets, turns would go check, and maybe a value bet on the river. It appeared to be a case of showdown poker and quite it would be three-way. Also saw a number of premiums(AK+) go un-bet or un-opened; appeared wanting to have someone else bet their hand or run a weak-trap.

Hero quickly became disruptive to the game by actually raising pre.

1st Adjustment

Hero kept increasing his pre-flop bet sizes ($7,$10,$15, 2x pot open OTB) to see where there was tolerance for bet sizing. After the 2nd orbit like this I mainly picked up the calling stations described above who would see the flop at almost any price.

This worked well for premiums (AK+) and would then jam for max bet on the flop and any point after that.

This became a problem having a good sized pot where the hero may have an over pair, TPTK, or draw to the nuts but these stations were polarizing in that they could have flopped a set or two pair (face-card and whatever) and looking to improve.

2nd Adjustment

After a few cold-cards on from the turn and river made a second adjustment:
  • Kept the same calling ranges but started playing button/cutoff ranges in middle position
  • Premiums get opened as normal but otherwise made a smaller opens ($10) and go to the flop with a ~$50-60 pot.
At this point hero would play the hand blind to any villain; any bets would be 3/5 pot size, taking free cards when on a draw, when making the nuts/second-nuts jamming it on the river for max bet (which often got called), folding to any significant resistance.

This approach worked well although with each passing orbit more of the callers would continue into the later streets.

Hero has to think his adjustments were obvious and their re-adjustment was maybe being a bit more hand selective; having 2/3/4 callers across multiple streets felt like the game could not be profitable.

Table change wasn't possible because the room filled up and there was a long wait list already (20+) on Labor Day weekend.

Comments?

Took good session notes afterwards but any immediate thoughts or reactions to what is described?
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09-02-2013 , 06:55 PM
A table filled with callin stations is one of the most profitable table AND easy to play against AND very low variance. The strategy is basically wait for a good hand and value bet them to death. From early and blinds I'd raise pre with AQ+, TT+. U can add KQ, AJ, 99 in position if u want. Stack sizes are relevant but I think a 10xbb raise should get u 1-2 callers and sometimes 3. If u flop tpgk+ on most flops, u should be betting max on each street but folding to any raise (they are passive so they most likely have a monster which usually means two pairs+)
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09-02-2013 , 06:56 PM
The biggest issue here is the spread limit nature of the game but there's nothing u can do there (other than leave)
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09-02-2013 , 09:37 PM
^So, what, only seasoned pros are allowed to outline their gameplans and ask for feedback?

Prick.
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09-03-2013 , 09:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LuvTheBeefCurtains
It appears you're trying to sound smart and sophisticated, when in fact, you're playing $2-100 SLHE. Did you know there is $5-100 SLHE at the same casino, as well as $30-60? My advice is to become a profitable player over 10,000+ hours then come here and try to sound like a pro with all the 'lingo'
I'll be at Ameristar on 9/6/13 from ~6:30pm until whenever; in-case you'd like to offer advice in person.

I'll buy the 1st beer.
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09-03-2013 , 05:03 PM
Well it definitely won't happen with that attitude. I mean, you can't lose the game if you don't play but you bloody well can't win it either. And also, take a moment to consider that well over 75% of the poker population (~50% of the OLP population, I would hazard a guess at like 80-90% of the live poker population) are unaware that strategies as sophisticated as what we discuss in this site every day are possible, or that something like this site even exists.

And the idea that OP will never find a girl grinding OLP is pretty funny.
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