Hello, this is my first post on 2+2. The table has been very loose with often 5-7 players seeing a flop. The villain in this hand has developed a tendency to put in small raises to build big family pots. One hand he button straddled. He has a very loose preflop game in general seeing flops with over 50 vpip. He is capable of betting and calling with marginal hands. He is older and loves to tell bad beat stories that nobody listens to. Hero's image is quite tight due to being card dead for awhile. This hand pretty badly butchered by me but I hope to find some helpful advice =)

Hero stack: $75
Villain covers the hero.

Hero is dealt J7

SB&BB post 1
UTG calls 1
UTG +1 folds
UTG+2 calls
MP calls 1
Villian(HJ) raises to 4
CO folds
Button calls
Hero(SB) calls
BB calls 4
UTG calls
UTG +2 calls
MP calls

Pot: $25

This is a fold pre situation. However, I make the call because I know from table dynamic the limpers will always call and never raise. I have had a mostly card dead session and feel like I'm forcing action with the call.

Flop 7 5 J

Hero: bet 12
BB folds
UTG folds
UTG +2 folds
MP folds
HJ calls 12
Button folds

I hate my sizing here. The size is partly due to my inexperience with live poker. I feel about 20 here is much better.

Pot is now about 47.

Turn K

Hero bets $25
HJ raises to $60.

The turn I bet for value. After the villain gives the old "why so much" then raise I know I'm beat. But neglect my instincts and call to see KJ.

I appreciate any advice you have and feel free to be brutal.

Fold that suited 4 gapper trash pre and avoid spots like this. What are you trying to flop with J7? You flopped 2 pair wich is the best you could hope for and still lost. Not to mention youre in the worst position at the table. As played fold turn to an old man regs raise, especially when you have a tight image and have shown strength on the flop/turn. Edit: bet more on the turn... $35-45.

Dont join the donkey limp train. Play better than them.

As you yourself said, fold pre.

As played, we hit a bingo flop, but since it was soooo multiway, I'm going to advocate an unusual line here. I would check from the SB and look for a c/r as it is very possible someone else hit the J and will bet it, at which point we can try to gii. Which with top 2 on this board, I'd love to stack off here.

As played to the turn, the K was a yucky card, but leading is correct. I also agree that if you were given a speech of "why so much" followed by a raise, you're often beat. But it can't be a huge mistake to call here, the only hands that the K helped to improve to beat us are KK/KJ/K7/K5 of which only the KJ and maybe K7 are likely given the action. It is pretty villain dependent, would he float w AK? Would he raise w AK after hitting his K here? Etc etc.

Welcome to the forums. Also... I play in a home game that is 1-1 sometimes. And I think it creates an interesting dynamic. My advice is to treat it like it is 1-2 and size accordingly when raising preflop. $10-15 open adding $2 per limper. It is the only way you'll be able to see flops HU or 3way. Otherwise every pot will be 5-9way.

Thank you for the replies. This was one of my first experiences with live poker. The mental adjustment will take me some time. You're absolutely right that I jumped on the donkey train here. I think the c/r line here is really good. It was common to see a flop where the bet is really small (4-6 into almost 30) and gets called in multiple spots. I think donk betting (75-90% pot) something like TPTK in these pots is still good but with two pair or sets c/r lets us gii. My raise sizes do need to be adjusted. 15 open sounds good. I plan on trying to at least find one interesting hand from each trip and posting it. Certainly my losing hands =)

I'm curious... Is this a 1-1 home game?

Okay people will always say to lead out but with this many people in the pot i might actually check raise here. The reason being the pot is small enough that even if you pot it, each caller gives the next caller and his family to tag along for the odds.
Even if you dont lead out, you need to bet more than 1/2 pot on such a draw heavy board. Like go potsize at least.

Edit: grunch, said same thing as TNTravis

This is a 1-1 at a local casino.

Welcome to the forum!
Not much to comment as imo you have already answered your questions.
Helpful advice? I guess try to do "in game" what you (already) know should be done.

Good luck.

Ok, not sure my comment about treating it the same as 1/2 applies as I've never played a 1/1 game at a casino. But I would still advise to raise bigger preflop than 4-6x as I still believe that the first caller will just create a string of calls.

Obv fold pre. When you flop top 2 there is no way to get away from the hand. Just a bad turn

A bit of a cooler here ... and probably unavoidable (short stacked against high volume player) but with your stack size you need to bet more on the Flop so you can just put your stack in on Turn and be happy you 'should' be in the lead.

The smaller Flop bet allows anyone with a draw or Jx to stick around pretty cheaply ... and with your stack size they know they aren't in for 'too much' danger going forward.

I doubt this guy folds his Jx to you even if you go all-in on the Flop anyway .. He just caught you with his 3+ outs.

If you are going to the Flop with this many people you need to be tighter, not looser with your holdings. Although this was a good 'bingo' Flop you are still in a lot of 'danger' to Jx and draws here even though you have Flopped almost the best hand possible for your holdings. Would you really like to see a JJ4 Flop here and have someone raise your Turn bet?

If you want to play, raise more to limit the field especially from early position. Not sure the dynamic of 1-1 but it very well could be a bingo fest until a few stacks at the table get built up.

Try not to give results in your OP (original post) but this result was fairly obvious just because you were posting it ... welcome and GL