£1/£1 live game 9 handed.
Fairly tight game full of regs.
I have £210 stack.The BB in the hand covers me and is generally a fairly straightforward TAG player.MP is fairly loose PF but again doesnt get too out of line post flop.

Want to hear responses about flop and turn.

Hero on BTTN w/AQ

Opened to £6 from EP,2 calls in front of me i call on BTTN,blinds call.(should have 3bet here?)

flop: AKJ (pot=£36)

Chkd round to me on BTTN i bet £18,BB flat calls,MP crai for £78 total.

I call,BB calls.(should i shove to force out BB)

Turn=6 (pot=£270)

BB leads £75,i shove for £51 more.

a) Should i have shoved the flop to shut out BB? I was surprised when BB called the £78 and had his range at is FD or KJ/AJ, w/the flop being broadways that removes sets from his range and was fairly sure he would 3bet AK.
MP i was sure AI range was FD+pair or FD+gutshot.

b)should i just flat call the £75 turn bet? 75 to win 345, think i made a stupid mistake shoving as i had no FE, and then fold to non river.

Thanks,will post results after responses.

If you're going to continue on the flop you should really just get it all in then, no point in leaving 126 behind if you think they have plenty of draws in their range.

If you don't think they have draws in their range because you have the ace of hearts in your hand the flop can definitely be a fold vs. tight players.

Whether you should 3 bet depends upon the play of others. What is EP's opening range? How likely is a raise to get the hand heads up?

C/r OTF at this level is 2 pair+ most of the time. If its not then its a huge draw where your 50/50. I just don't think your doing to well 90% of the time vs this line. If I continue its a shove OTF.

Flatting is the correct and only option if you think EP is capable of raising hands wider than AK and JJ+. The flop is gross and it is entirely read dependent on what you think villain's check/raising range is capable of having. If you think you're ahead you should have shoved, calling isn't ideal with the stack sizes.

Absolutely, this is an auto 3-bet. You are in position and you have a hand that is fairly strong. One of the biggest leaks in LLSNL is players do not 3-bet near enough. When you 3-bet in these spots you retake the initiative and that is HUGE in poker, it allows you to rep a hand much stronger than what you actually have and win post flop through aggression. The reason this is so important is because you are going to MISS the board 70% of the time. So, when you do miss you can still take down most boards because your villains will likewise miss the board 70% of the time...

Now, the only thing to be aware of is the opening range of your villains. In 1/2nl (or in your case 1/1nl) most players have an opening raising range of AK, JJ+ and really don't raise all that light. If this is the case, you can actually just fold your AQ since it is now an ROI hand or if you do call you are really hoping to flop gin, 2p or better or hit the Queen...

Anyways, I'm 3-betting here almost always. Make it £26

This has got to be the worst and I do mean the worst flop for your hand.

Let me ask you a question? What ranges do you assign to your villains. What did the EP raise with? What did the others call with?

Odds are EP raised with AK, AQ, or at the very least AJs, odds are your villains called with 76s+, 75s+, 96s+, and broadways and 22-JJ...

So basically, this board smacks dead in the middle of your villains ranges and there are a crap ton of two pair and Pair + straight and Pair + flush combos as well as straights and sets...

AQ becomes a Reverse Implied Odds hand here meaning it is just good enough to pay off someone's monster and it looks like you are strong when in reality you are super weak.

As played, I'm NEVER betting this flop. Especially when in 1/1nl players love to be trappy trappy here and go for a crai. they live for that c/r at this level and I love not giving it to them. So I chk back and pray for a Ten on turn so I can shove and then have them make a crying call with their two pair or set.

Notice so far you haven't really given ANY thought to what everyone else has. Please don't take this as an insult, but you seem to be very level 1 here. Basically, you seem to be only focusing on your hand and not putting your villains on a range of hands.

What hand can the BB have that would call your £18 bet and then call the £78 crai??? And then how does your hand compare to theirs. I mean, are you putting them both on KQ or AT because those are the ONLY hand combos they can have that you beat.

Also, look at this situation. I find it interesting that so many LLSNL players hate the thought of raising while in position but conversely, have no problem calling all-in bets on boards that absolutely smash the ranges of their villains. If you have no problem calling £78 and are even thinking about jamming to isolate why doesn't any of that aggression translate into your preflop game where it would do even more good?

Food for thought.

Okay, now you are demonstrating some Level 2 thinking, good to see, however it is self serving Level 2 thinking. If your villain's range has pair + FD or FD + straight draws THEN IT ALSO HAS flushes and straights in it as well as two pair combos.

If you add up all the ranges and combos then your hand is just behind. Now what's interesting is that you turn the nut draw.

But why shove? There is no reason to shove when you have zero fold equity and are drawing. When you are behind equity wise then you don't want to pump money into the pot. You want to pump money into the pot when you are AHEAD equity wise.

Overall, I see you got sucked into this hand on the turn. Fair enough.

But looking back, you should have checked back flop. Whenever you have a preflop raise and a couple of callers and the flop is all broadways, 1 pair hands usually end up paying off better hands....

It also feels like you are just overestimating what your bets will accomplish while also underestimating what your villains are trying to accomplish or rep.

Lastly, examine your preflop aggression and compare it to your post flop aggression. Why is it you have a problem 3-betting here on the BTN but have no problem jamming money into the pot post flop when you are likely behind???

GL

thanks for the responses,special thnx to dgiharris for detailed response.

BB had 42

MP had Q9

EP initial raiser folded,if he had called or c/r that would have been v.different on this board.

MP who i have played w/alot definately has alot of FDs here,i would expect him to bet 2pr or QT hands and not c/r w/them.

BB would be more likely to have 2pr or QT but i still think he would c/r my flop bet either of these.

When he bets turn his hand is face up and i should def just flat and fold non heart river

I think i fold to the flop c/r. Whether i 3bet pre or bet the flop is player dependent.