Hello,

Playing in a a 1/1 home game that plays like a loose 1/2 game and people get real deep pretty fast.

villain 1: Really weird player. Can be very aggressive, is able to conceal hands well. but also does completely idiotic things like take huge pps voluntarily into 5 way pots, raises ridiculous sizes, usually minraising (ie...ep raises to 10 and gets 4 callers, villain in bb will min raise preflop)...just all around bad/weird player who is bound to go broke at this game and does just about every week (but a really nice guy if he reads this)

~$600

villain 2: strong winning regular. Can conceal hands well, very Lag, especially ip but does do odd things sometimes.

~$500

Hero: has been murdering this game for about a month. Everybody probably hates me. But my image is pretty tag today.

~550

Hand:

Hero utg w/ AK raises to $10
Villain utg+1 raises to $30
Villain2 utg+2 calls $30
I'm not sure what this cold call means. His range could be wide here, but he could think he's trapping villain1 with a big pair.

Hero calls

Flop: 4 710

Hero checks. Villain1 bets $30. Villain2 raises to $75?

Hero???

thanks for any help.

Anything but call.

how common are 3-bets preflop? Does V1 3-bet a wide range? what range in particular do you give to the stronger player? From what you have written it would seem he is would try to get in a good spot in position very deep against V1.

are you worried about a re-raise from V1 if you flat the 75?

I probably flat and get into a tough spot on a K turn

i would make it $200-$250 to go i never flat call, though folding is an option i like my hand here so i try to take it down now

I agree that I couldn't just call. Mostly that if any of villain1's range (meaning he has an over pair, top pair, or any decent draw...maybe even middle pair) was hit he was raising.

I raised the the flop to 225 and villain 1 cold calls. Villain 2 folds. Which was pretty odd to me. I don't want to say turn and river action, but does anyone have advice where to go from here oop? I mean, if we airball turn, is there any point shoving? Pot is ~ $700, I have like slightly under 300.

re-raising pre to 100 would have made this easier to play post flop

Playing this deep I probably 4 bet-fold as well. You don't even need to 4bet that big, something like 90. Once the flop hits you're playing for stacks, especially if you have more BIs.

I don't really like calling PF, we're too deep and the SPR is going to be a little whackity OOP vs a 3 bet.

I re-raise preflop as well. As played on the flop, your'e playing for stacks. You have to shove any turn once you raised that much. If you were going to raise, I would have raised the flop to around $175 instead. This gives a little bit closer to a pot size shove on the turn which you are looking for.

Also, it is typically bad to call on the flop here but in this type of game and this deep I dont mind a call. You still get paid off if your flush card hits and you're not risking too much. If K or A hits, you will have to do some soul reading. You play with them every week so rely and trust your reads.

I think I raise more than I call preflop, but I think both are in the mix.

On the flop as played, I call. We're deep enough that that isn't an instashove situation, imo, and the stack sizes are a little weird. The bet + raise are really just a PSB combined, so it's not like anyone has shown a ton of strength yet.

+1 on the soul read if A or K hits.

Folding to a shove pre, yes?

Definitely yes if from Villian2. Villian1 I would have to think about (and is very player dependent).

just jam flop

v2 is ridiculously wide here
v1 flop sizing makes no sense unless he wants to get it in (in which case he'll just 3bet when it gets back to him)

pre is debatable, but its fine tbh once v2 coldcalls. I mighttt 4bet AKo.

agree with this