The main villian (BB) in this hand is loose pre flop, I have no history with him. Based on the limited sample of hands, he wasn't passive preflop with premium hands big aces, mid pairs, etc. MP+1 and HJ were loose and neutral. MP+1 was a bit prone to slow play.

In this game, I've noticed alot of players like to raise their draws. Particularly draws with an extra dimension ... a OESD with a back door flush, sometimes a gutshot with a backdoor flush.

On the flop, when MP+1 bets out, I feel that I need to raise for hand protection with a potential straight on the board. He could have a pair, a straight draw, anything. I'd imagine a pot size raise in this spot is about right? When I was three bet, I snap shoved. In this spot, do you think I'm ever getting check raised three bet by hands as low as 75, 72, over pairs or an OESD? I'm obviously crushing him if he has a draw, 75, or 72 (76% equity), and crushed if he has 77 or 55 (5% equity). The BB's line is pretty damn strong bet-pot sized raise- check raise 3 bet.

Thx,
Steve


$1/$1/$2, $4 to go, Lucky Chances, Colma, CA, 9 players

SB $100
BB $220
UTG $80
UTG+1 $60
MP $350
MP+1 $150
HJ $100
CO $50
BTN $230

Hero is on the BTN with 2 2

UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP calls, MP+1 folds, HJ calls, CO folds, Hero calls, SB folds, BB calls

Pot $21

Flop 7 5 2

BB checks, MP+1 bets $8, HJ calls, Hero raises to $40, BB raises to $100, MP+1 holds, HJ folds, Hero ?

There are 6 combo's 55 and 77 that beat you. Villain's 3bet to $100 seems like value into that many players in behind. The only real draws are 68, 64 and 43 and maybe A4/A3. Is villain capable of semi-bluff/squeezing into 3 players? You say there is a lot of betting with OESD etc., but are they willing to stack off with 2 pair or just an OESD?

There is an old saying though, don't go broke in a limped pot.

It is hard to let go of a set, especially not being that deep. I probably stack off here. If he's got an overset, gg/reload.

You say V was not passive preflop with overpairs/midpairs so 88+ is out. In the face of a bet and raise, draws are out imo, which leaves two pair combos and sets, so the range is pretty narrow: 55, 77, 75, 72, 52.

Board: 7c 5s 2d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 62.670% 62.67% 00.00% 13029 0.00
{ 2c2s }
Hand 1: 37.330% 37.33% 00.00% 7761 0.00
{ 77, 55, 75s, 72s, 52s, 75o, 72o, 52o }

Flopping sets is hard and I'm never getting away from this hand. With no history with villain I see him just as apt to 3bet his two pair hands as his sets. Think the range above is spot on and I fist pump and get the money in.

You're playing effectively a 55BB game. I'd be hard pressed to fold JJ here, let alone a set. Just jam it in and live with what happens. If you're going to flinch when 50BB goes in when you hit your set with 22, you should fold it pf.

Welcome long time lurker. Yeah, this is a def get it in position. Nice first post though.

This is an easy Allin. Your hand is hidden because of limp pot. Only thing I'd be worried about is over set. If they have over set then reload and put it down to a cooler. I barely see a decision here.

I would shove. I play a lot at LC. You most likely have the best hand here. LC has some crazy 112 action. When's your next session @ LC?

Raise from $8 to $40 is a mistake on a board this dry/stake size consideration. Raise to $25-30. As played go with it.

fist pump shove

Crazy is an understatement. It can be down right maniacal. I usually play tuesday or wednesday 5:30 or 6 to 9.

Steve

I don't follow. Please explain why a pot size raise is a mistake. If there are any draws, I want them to pay, and I want to get value out of my set.

You value cut yourself from pairs like A5, A7, 7x, 66, 88-1010 who make hero folds that would have otherwise called a smaller raise.

The actual results-oriented indicate you walked into somebody who had something worth playing against you, but often they will make the good fold with the hands that are drawing virtually dead against you. Just imagine you are villain facing this raise and you hold A7 and think of how you would respond to both sized raises.

You can get the stacks in by the river without potting flop. Also, aside from 68 and 64, all other straight draws are drawing very thin against you. You want somebody to peel with a gut-shot and spike a pair or whatever.

(FWIW, I don't feel raising this amount is a massive mistake at LLS, I just think it's sub-optimal in this spot. If he had bet bigger OTF, it would be different, but he still has a lot of weak pairs when he bets 1/3 pot. Raising from $8 to $40 is a lot more extreme than say $20 to $60, see what I'm saying?)