home game 0.5/1 , i was MP+2,villain was CO competent tag player

my hole cards : AK spades

utg limps and the rest folds to me,i raise it up to $6,all folds to CO(villain) calls,folds back to utg who repops it to $12.

i and CO calls.

Flop was 10 5 2 (2 spades), utg checks,i check,CO bets $30 into pot of 35.

utg turbo folds(LoL so much for min raising preflop),i shoved $160 with 2 over cards and nut flush draw,he had the same stack as me and called.

he showed set of 5`s , i was in bad shape as my 2 over cards were no good,we ran it three times and i didnt even hit one flush.



May i know what should be the right play preflop and post flop? should i have 4 bet the min raiser?
IMO that was my biggest mistake here,i could have avoided this situation!

CO would definitely have folded if i 4 bet,he folded small pockets a few times to all in and big raises.


why i didn't 4 bet PF was because for our table,usually the min raisers are holding monster hands(ya it's weird i dont know what's with all the min raising as i'm from online)like kings or aces.

and post flop why i shoved was because i wanted to commit into it and dont think so much,if i called i would be in a weird spot facing pressure from villain and would fold to him if i miss the turn.

was i unlucky to run into a set?if not i'll be a slight favourite right?

Depending on your read on UTG, you can either 4bet PF or just flat as you did. As played on this flop I would probably bet...? I think that you are going to get all-in in most cases after both you and the CO see this flop. Yes, you got unlucky.

thanks for comments!

Assign ranges pre-flop to the villains.

UTG villain would get QQ+/AK based on you read.

TAG who has position on you in the CO would get something like:
22-1010, Axs, 23s-J9s, ATBs, KQo, AJo, AQ (and this is about as wide of a range as you could give him by the way, it could be a ALOT tighter depending on how nitty the TAG is).

On the flop, when UTG check folds, he had AK pretty much always. This is important because he just mucked 2 of your 6 over-card outs.

The CO TAG bets after 2 checks to him is at best 100% of his range pretty much to take down the pot from a UTG raiser who pretty much just gave up by checking. Again, his bet range here can be much tighter, but let’s assume the best case scenario for you.

Now, what hands is he going to bet / get it in vs. a check raise here?
Here it is: 1010, 55, 22, 25s, 34 spades, J10 spades.
You are crushed against this range, absolutely crushed.

Now if you check call his bet, he is going to continue betting / calling you with a much wider range, so after you call the flop, you re-evaluate based on the turn card, his action, and possibly our lead action on the turn. You may stack a smaller flush draw if a flush gets there for example.

Check-raising it in here is bad. You will be getting your stack in behind in a major way 100% of the time given that the CO is a competent player, even if he is a LAG.

Yeah, min-3bet was the monstrous pocket 5s.

You really should be 4betting AKs for value. Flatting a 3ball O.O.P. w/ AK is almost always super weak and I think it only becomes justifiable when stacks are deep (i.e. >300BBs) in which case getting AK all in pre would be a mistake.

You really should be making it like 35-45 pre.

Agree mostly the quoted post below.

Agree w/4bet, but I think you misread hand-3bet min raise was UTG who limped, not CO, so we're in position.

thanks for all comments,would really like to improve my live play.

I think I would 4-bet AK here, you can fold to the utg if he shoves and you push out CO who is likely playing more marginal hands as he has position. 4-betting also will drive out CO from any setmining.

i think flatting is fine pre if he hasnt limped/min3bet pre yet. if he has and has showed down speculative hands then im 4bet/calling. but in general i think the flat is fine. i think you need to lead the flop here because your equity goes down significantly on the turn if you miss. worst case is you are against a set and only have like high 20 percent chance of winning. by betting the flop you increase the chance you win the pot with ace high, are able to build the pot and take it away on the turn, and possibly get it in against a worse drawing hand. i normally believe checking big draws on the flop is a mistake and this situation is definitely one of them.

Pre all comes down to UTG, but unless you had never seen him play a single hand you should probably have concluded he was a level 0 thinker. I have seen one hand of his and it is clear. Therefore 4 bet pre is better.

As played pre, flop is totally standard, although after UTG checks, you could certainly lead.

Not sure if I like the flop shove. Counting your outs as FD + 2 overs isn't accurate. Is villain betting with TP? Probably not, but if so, his kicker is mostly another Ace or a King, which negates some of our outs.
Your shove will fold anything with which you have decent equity against and will only be called by hands that have you crushed.
So, I prefer to peel turn and use our position to see what he does before deciding if its the right play to commit or not

We are OOP

Oh sorry, I misread the hand. Then, I guess after PFR checks, leading would be my preferred line. Are we comfortable stacking off if raised? Or is b/f better here??

Simple hand 4 bet pre as played shove flop just unlucky to run into a set.