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06-13-2011 , 01:05 AM
History: Hero playing TAGish whole night. Has not been seen to go all-in with less than 2-pair (over 2-3 sessions). Players are mostly loose-passive, with a few tighter-passives.

Button: ~$80 Loose-passive, new to the game, and is a big gambler. Has gone through two buy-ins, mainly from slowly losing his stack, then straddling->blind all-in.

UTG+2: Tighter-passive.
SB: Loose-passive.

Hero: $270 CO is dealt AKo

Preflop($18): UTG+2 limps, hero raises $4, Button calls, SB calls, BB folds.
4-way

Flop($38): A A 5 rUTG+2 checks, Hero bets $10, button calls, others fold.

Correct bet-sizing?

Turn: 7 (2 spades)Hero checks, Button bets $20, hero raises $50.

Is simply leading out again the better play?

*1st time posting, hope the format is correct.
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06-13-2011 , 01:22 AM
Classic WAWB situation. Based on your description of the villain (which is somewhat confusing) a turn check may induce bluffs and allow him to value bet worse A's. With villain being relatively short stacked a turn c/r is going to commit him to the hand unless he has complete air. If u think he will bet the river with all his bluffs and worse A's the just c/c turn and c/r river. If u think he will not continue to bluff and will not value bet weak A's on the river then just call turn and donk river.
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06-13-2011 , 01:28 AM
i would just bet-bet-bet, and size bigger on flop, and include pot size on turn
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06-13-2011 , 01:34 AM
Also I think betting flop in this type of game is the best line to take. Worse A's aren't folding and spp's aren't calling unless they improve to a fullhouse. I think this line is referred to as a negative equity slowplay or something like that.
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06-13-2011 , 01:48 AM
As it turns out, button flashed an A, and folded. Looking back, I think the c-raise combined with being the PFR + nitty image polarized my range too much.
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06-13-2011 , 04:06 AM
Probably bet at least half pot on flop, but I don't hate the small bet. On Turn you must either bet, or c/c, a c/r only is good if you opp. in insane. If he is aggresive, I think it's fine to check call turn, and river, or check call turn, then lead river around 1/3 pot. It he's passive, then just bet turn and river.
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06-13-2011 , 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by DjSkyy
i would just bet-bet-bet, and size bigger on flop, and include pot size on turn
pot is $16 or so.

bet $12 on flop.
he will never fold an A for one bet. you really could get away with betting anything here but i think you can get called by some pairs.

pot will be $40 on turn.

bet $25 on turn. he will have ~$40 left for the river having committed half his stack at this point.


i am new to this forum but it seems a lot of people check raise the turn with the nuts and wonder why the action dies. just lead the turn to build a pot that you can make a big river bet and get called in.

side note: if you dont think he will call you with anything but inside straight draws and aces on the flop this might be a spot to make a big overbet and then his stack to pot ratio dooms him. once he calls like $25 hes kinda trapped. pot will be $66 and he has $49 left. thoughts?

Last edited by jasnlcas; 06-13-2011 at 04:57 AM.
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06-13-2011 , 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by jasnlcas
side note: if you dont think he will call you with anything but inside straight draws and aces on the flop this might be a spot to make a big overbet and then his stack to pot ratio dooms him. once he calls like $25 hes kinda trapped. pot will be $66 and he has $49 left. thoughts?
I think an overbet, with my TAG play, is quite suspicous, and pretty much yells strength. Although perhaps it could represent a high pocket thats scared of the two aces?

I think for an overbet to work, need to have a looser/maniac image... ?
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06-13-2011 , 06:51 AM
You could probably raise more pre considering there's a limper which would really make this hand easier to play

Bet at least half pot on flop, too much more is overkill, too much less you lose too much value.
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06-13-2011 , 08:31 AM
I would continue to lead out OTT for the simple fact that there is now 2 spades on the board and we don't want to give villain picked a free card if he picked up a flush draw or has a worse Ax hand than you.
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