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Originally Posted by acescracked84
There's just no way anyone is profitable opening QTs UTG in a live 2/5 game, sorry. I have thousands of hours in these games and feel the biggest leak aggressive players have is opening light up front. There's just literally no reason to do it. People aren't paying attention and you're getting best handed OOP.
The answer is "it depends"
There are plenty of tables full of weak-tight passive fit-n-fold ABC type players in which we can own them post flop with almost ATC even if we are OOP.
Then there are some tables in which a thinking player or a winning TAG is in LP and we will light money on fire opening too light OOP.
It just depends.
As far as limping suited broadways UTG, if we are at limpy limpy weak passive tables in which there are a few passive super drooler stations at the table, then we can/should absolutely limp suited broadways from EP.
Implied odds are usually greater than 80:1, and we can realize fat value when we hit 2p or better and we can often manipulate the betting post flop with blocking bets to set our own price to draw.
Problems occur when/if we are unable to fold our TPMK type hands vs a table full of limpers post flop. Problems also occur when/if we don't have a good handle on villains' post flop tendencies.
But if we have good profiles on our villains, their post flop tendencies, the table dynamics, and a decent understanding of our image, then there are definitely times when we should be limping EP with a fairly wide range. With 80:1 or better odds vs super drooler type villains, why in the hell wouldn't we want to play more hands against them if they are going to let us by incorrectly not raising preflop when they are in position???
Obviously, if there are aggros and/or thinking players to our left then limping becomes less profitable or even -EV. But when that is not the case, and we are at a fairly passive limpy type table, then why not take advantage of it...