How is minraising with QQ ever a good idea? What do we possibly accomplish here? We give villain perfect odds to call, we practically invite a host of other players to call for direct implied odds, and we leave ourselves clueless to his hand strength. We have the 3rd best possible starting hand in a vacuum, you dont go around putting people on AA and KK just because zomg they raised in the CO. We raise the button and expect villain to call so we raise for maximum value pushing the edge of his calling range, which for most people is about 3x their initial raise size. You are still getting the pot HU, but now you are getting a lot more money for it.

I generally wouldn't expect someone who calls a preflop raise to bet out if they flop 2 pair or a set. Generally they would want the preflop raiser to bet into them and start building a pot.

This is why live games are profitable, because when I do stuff like lead the flop with TT multiway on a T88 two flush board, no one ever considers for a second at any ppoint in the hand putting JJ in the muck

are you sure you've been paying close enough attention?

yeah exactly. javi what are you talking about? live players raise more then just JJ+ seriously cmon.

interesting....i honestly didn't think it was that big of a deal in a live game when you are new to the table but everyone crushed me to death (and in all honesty it's not something I really ever do) but if people think its that horrible they'd lol when some live players muck hands like AJ to a min raise like that lol

minraise preflop:
-flags your hand as a likely big pair
-gives opponent odds to continue under the assumption that he needs to get lucky to crack a big pair
-creates a pot size that commits you in most non-overcard situations

For these reasons, a minraise gives your opponent a $25 shot at taking your stack. On the flip side, I would think it creates more fold equity because of the monster it reps. I would probably be more inclined to make the minraise with a hand like AK or 87s that desires some postflop fold equity, since it will miss so often (and since it misses you won't offer full implied odds to take your stack). With the big pocket pair, you want postflop action, but when you get it how often is your hand any good?

If your goal was isolation, then a $70 3-bet will also work

You want to discuss villain's line:
Flop: Bets to 3-bet all-in. Since he expects you to have a big overpair, he expects you to raise now and commit your chips. You do not, so perhaps he puts you on AK.

Turn: No sense in betting if you were just taking one off with AK. He gives you a chance at a free card. You bet a small amount which could be an overpair, but perhaps he thinks you will fold to a c/r here, sensing you've been trapped. He calls and plans to donk the river no matter what.

River: Card changes nothing. If you felt you were good on the turn, you will call now for certain since his line represents a whiffed draw. OTOH you might check behind with an overpair and you might make a hero call with AK/AQ.

Now, taking his actions and mapping them back to exactly this narrative of motives is probably impossible. Because you could just as easily map back to a hand like QJ:
Flop: tries to buy the pot....oops didn't work
Turn: better check and call so I don't put my stack in with a draw
River: let's see if I can rep an oddly played set or push this scared money off his hand.

Part of the problem with the minraise is you can't discount crappy hands like QJ.

One more point on the minraise. When you're new to the table, your first big pot is going to do a lot to influence how people perceive you. If my first big pot is going to actually have a strong hand, I want to play it aggro and show it down, setting a precedent for later moves. Just another argument for a larger bet there.

Bet larger on the turn, call river. I think that he shows up with a set less often than he shows up with something weaker. Clearly, more info on villain could even make this a fold at some point, but I wouldn't mind getting the stacks in the middle here, given what we know.

I am confused, are you new to the table or have you been there for 3 orbits? 3 orbits is about a hour so that isn't too new.
If you just got there this is a easy call, he is showing you that you will have to play for stacks when he is in the hand, he is the table bully and will keep bulling you around till you make a stand.

If he has KK or AA or a set it is just a cooler, time to rebuy. But he can also make this with A10 of JJ. Plus it is $250 to you for $755, easy call.

im snapping this river off

agree that preflop is a little weak

edit: bah, didnt see this went to page 3, my argument is invalid now.

Implied odds work both ways. You're ignoring the times he calls with hands liek AT and loses his stack (instead of fold PF), or bluff off his stack with his weak range. And implied odds is simply not a very important concept in this situation in any case.