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Originally Posted by PotThief5
Yeah, I was kicking myself for not betting the flop.
There's no way his 3bet range is that wide though. I had only been playing with him for about two hours, but he only 3bet once and had KK. Even his raising range was big pairs and AK every time he showed (maybe 3 or 4 hands) or went to showdown. I think his 3b range is JJ+, AQs+, AKo
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People tend not to show the bottom of their raising or 3-betting ranges.
You didn't specify a read on villain other than he's friends with a bad reg. Oh, and "bearded dude." I assume this means regfish or bad TAG. I'm pretty sure he's not an OMC. Your raise from CO looks like a steal. He could easily be 3-betting that wide, but that's not really the point. If he's even half that wide defending the blinds this is an easy call. We lose to 9 combos of AA, KK, QQ, and that's it from a tight 3-betting range. We beat 9 combos AK. We beat 9 combos AQ. We beat 12 combos JJ and TT. We beat tons of other hands, but these are the ones he's most likely to 3-bet here. Unless you KNOW he only 3-bets {QQ+} this is a call. Even super tight players 3-bet {QQ+, AK} at least in this spot. He would play AK almost the same as the sets. You have to call.
And your hand history with this guy is two hours. That's what, 60 hands? During this time he 3-bets twice, once ever 30 hands, or about 3.4%. We can't take that as his 3-betting range unless he's running exactly average, but that's {99+, AQs+, AKo} for the record. Just because he had KK once doesn't mean that's near the bottom of his 3-betting range.
Moreover, what's your table image? I'm guessing you raise more than most players? Maybe he noticed. Maybe he 3-bets wider in a defend vs. steal situation against an aggressive player. Unless you've got a lockdown read this guy is super tight and super passive, call. If you're pretty sure he really is that tight, *and* he bets big on the river, *then* think about laying down your hand. But it's too soon now. You checked the turn, which means he's got his whole 3-betting range still with him. If you'd bet the flop, he'd have folded out his weakest holdings and you'd have an easier decision.