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03-31-2014 , 11:13 PM

wnpsi

newbie

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 24

Hero has tight image.
V1 is tight old woman
V2 is a good player. never saw him in "moves" or crazy action. b
it was 6 AM i just came in, they were playin whole night

V1 stack is $240
V2 had me covered
i had $1700

blinds 5-10
V1 raises on CO $40 after UTG limp, Hero 3bet $120, V2 calls from SB, UTG calls $120, V1 shoves $240, Hero 5bet $620, V2 tanks for 2 mins and shoves
Hero ?

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03-31-2014 , 11:36 PM

AAismyfriend

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 11,841

call. and whats your hand?

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03-31-2014 , 11:46 PM

wnpsi

newbie

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 24

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Originally Posted by AAismyfriend

call. and whats your hand?

oops. it's QQ

it was live game in Commerce

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04-01-2014 , 01:41 AM

Lazaro

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 1,589

This is full ring? How many effective players?

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04-01-2014 , 01:45 AM

OnTilt24/7

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 215

I don't think QQ should be in your 5 betting range here(I'm assuming this is full ring). I'd be a bit concerned about a strong player cold calling your 3 bet and then a really tight player 4bet shoving with very little fold equity. I think this is a pretty clear fold after V1 shoves with V2 still to act behind you. As played it just becomes a question of what you think V1 and V2's ranges are. What are your thoughts about their ranges? When you 5 bet, what worse hands did you think V2 would continue with? What were you planning to do if he shoved?

lol @AAismyfriend's post

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04-01-2014 , 02:00 AM

ssg

old hand

Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,430

^agree with that, Kk/AA probably the only hand we continue with especially live

and you see v1 with AA V2 with KK I suppose

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04-01-2014 , 12:06 PM

Stacking Chips

adept

Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 970

Why level you here when he has to go to showdown against a nit woman.

There's a small side pot brewing but this seems like a standard fold at this point. Against a Good player or not QQ in a bloated pot facing possible showdown 3 ways is scary bad.
Sigh fold and feel good about it

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04-01-2014 , 09:45 PM

scelsi

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,464

Add a few combos of AK and you're way good. I don't think it's too far-fetched given V2 flats your 3! and reships after V1 shoves and you 5! AA/KK probably just make it like $300 to go with V1 to act (v1 is so short that there's no point in flatting to keep them in, from v2's perspective, in other words).

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04-01-2014 , 11:16 PM

85chickasaw

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,802

grunch: fold

even though i expect to see AK here with this line from a good player the price is too high. he could be banking on your perceived strength. fold, take note of what he had. double up off him later.

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04-02-2014 , 01:03 AM

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HiroNakamara

grinder

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 493

So let me get this straight... V2 is a "good player" who's never gotten out of line...
tanks for 2 minutes after being 5 bet and then SHOVES?
And you wonder if you're QQ is good?

He's got KK here 99% of the time. 1% he's got the other QQ.
V1 has got AQs - she's ready to go home.

Flop will come out A high.
V1 will win the main pot.
V2 will take the side pot.

But you get a good story to tell on 2+2.

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04-02-2014 , 01:07 AM

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floattheriver

enthusiast

Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 60

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Originally Posted by HiroNakamara

sick read

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