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06-28-2013 , 06:45 AM
2/5 NL

Evil villain is young white male, wearing headphones and drinking scotch. He's holding a cigarette in his hand, because when he is not, he won't stop shuffling his chips.
He hasn't played a hand in thirty minutes, but has been active up until 10:00; he said he has to go at 11:00. He has 1050$.

With thirty minutes left, he caught a bad string of cards, and was left with 750$.

He says, "this is my last round."

Superhero has 850$ and position.

The hand:

Folds around to evil villain who, in middle position, raised to 20$.
Superhero, on the button, called with A9dd.

The flop:

T52

He led out for 30$.
Call.

The turn: 3

He bet 75
Raise to 275
All in for 625

Superhero thought that he could win the pot with a large raise. Expects opponent to have over pair or T. Bluff at worst.

The two have not battled, till now.
Though he seemed to be tilted, he was a grinder.
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06-28-2013 , 07:00 AM
pokerismywife?
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06-28-2013 , 07:13 AM
Calling is a mere odd question with one over and a flush draw. I don't like your line here. I think your turn raise is too big and that it's very optimistic to think that someone who is probably tilting a little bit will fold a10 or overpairs.
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06-28-2013 , 08:42 AM
I would of folded on the flop.
As played, (i would) call off. It's prolly not mathematically sound. But I like your chances with Murphy's law on his part. You asked what I would do..
Prolly why I don't play for a living.
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06-28-2013 , 09:30 AM
If V started with $750, he is AI for $700 OTT. So it is $425 to call for a $1075 pot - you need 39.5% to call. Identify a range and stove it. (If he is starting with $675, then you need 35%. But you also said that he has $1050 in the first paragraph - which one is it?)

But better yet - don't get into this spot in the first place. Fold to the c-bet OTF and move on to the next hand. You did, after all, completely whiff the flop, while he has a range that, even if he missed as well, probably has you completely dominated. As played, this is pure spew.

If your heart was set on going to war against this guy with A9, three-bet preflop and take control of the action. It also allows you to narrow his range more easily.
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06-28-2013 , 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by sao
If V started with $750, he is AI for $700 OTT. So it is $425 to call for a $1075 pot - you need 39.5% to call. Identify a range and stove it. (If he is starting with $675, then you need 35%. But you also said that he has $1050 in the first paragraph - which one is it?)

But better yet - don't get into this spot in the first place. Fold to the c-bet OTF and move on to the next hand. You did, after all, completely whiff the flop, while he has a range that, even if he missed as well, probably has you completely dominated. As played, this is pure spew.

If your heart was set on going to war against this guy with A9, three-bet preflop and take control of the action. It also allows you to narrow his range more easily.
This math is wrong. When the pot is $1075 with $425 to call we are getting about 2.5:1 which means we need to be good 1 in 3.5 times or in other words have 28% equity not 39.5%.
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06-28-2013 , 10:13 AM
The pot is about $1000. You need to call an additional $400, so you need at least 28.57% equity to call. Looks pretty close.

You've got 27.8% against {22, 55, TT, JJ-AA, ATs, AT}
Take out 22 and you're up to 28.2%.
Take out 22 and 55 and you're up to 28.7%.
Add more Tx and your equity goes higher.

Either way calling or folding can only be a very small mistake. If you feel like gambling call. If not, fold.

The only info you gave on hero is stack size. Hopefully, you considered your image when planning the hand and specifically the float and the semibluff. Without hero description, I can't critique the play up to this point.
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06-28-2013 , 10:16 AM
i did it wrong too.

pot is $1000 and you need to call $350. You need 25.9%. You should call.
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06-28-2013 , 10:19 AM
...assuming it was all in on the turn for $625 total.
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06-28-2013 , 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Superman1
This math is wrong. When the pot is $1075 with $425 to call we are getting about 2.5:1 which means we need to be good 1 in 3.5 times or in other words have 28% equity not 39.5%.
Oops. Thanks for the correction.
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06-28-2013 , 10:28 AM
grunch: stove it... this is straight up pot odds question.

however, i would have folded that flop unless you were looking to steal later.
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06-28-2013 , 10:50 AM
hate hate hate hate hate hate your line without a read that he double barrels light

That turn card didn't help any hand in your range
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06-28-2013 , 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by The Rumor
hate hate hate hate hate hate your line without a read that he double barrels light

That turn card didn't help any hand in your range

Superhero was really trying to pick on him/convince him that our holding was 55. No reason to raise on the flop, thoughts were we can extract another street of value with a smooth call and then raise the turn. the 3 was a beautiful card.

Sometimes, ya gotta gamble.
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06-28-2013 , 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by madlondoner
Calling is a mere odd question with one over and a flush draw. I don't like your line here. I think your turn raise is too big and that it's very optimistic to think that someone who is probably tilting a little bit will fold a10 or overpairs.


He was perceived as a grinder. Been at the table for 7 hours.

Any A, diamond, or 4 wins the pot.
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06-28-2013 , 07:31 PM
OP... well done with the best description of a villain, eva... LMFAO.

Oh... and your raise on the turn is terrible. Stuperhero, ITT. (J/K... ).

BTW, any wins the pot. A or 4 may be dominated.
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06-28-2013 , 09:50 PM
just call the turn...
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06-28-2013 , 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by esw230
just call the turn...

Thought about it.
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06-28-2013 , 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by StringCheck
Thought about it.
Should have went with it, look @ the mess you got yourself into by raising the turn. Also you said this guy was leaving soon which makes me think he is REALLY STRONG like 85% of the time and 15% of the time hes bluffing, no inbetween. these percentages are 100% true btw.
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06-28-2013 , 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by esw230
Should have went with it, look @ the mess you got yourself into by raising the turn. Also you said this guy was leaving soon which makes me think he is REALLY STRONG like 85% of the time and 15% of the time hes bluffing, no inbetween. these percentages are 100% true btw.
That's debatable.
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06-28-2013 , 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by StringCheck
That's debatable.
You are posting on a forum. LoL
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06-28-2013 , 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by esw230
You are posting on a forum. LoL

i'm not trying to be malicious.

You said those percentages were 100 percent true.

I'm open to criticism.
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06-28-2013 , 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by StringCheck
i'm not trying to be malicious.

You said those percentages were 100 percent true.

I'm open to criticism.
LOL Ok obviously those %'s are not 100% true, but my point is that because of the spot the villian is in, the way you described him and the fact that he is leaving soon, he is either really strong or bluffing. If you call the turn and hit your flush on the river, the villian will continue regardless ALMOST always, and you will get paid in full dude. If he does not continue betting on the river, you're set up perfectly for a HEFTY value bet in position on the river, See my point?
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