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What are ranging opponent? What are ranging opponent?

05-11-2013 , 11:50 AM
Hand i played last night.

Background:
Table full of droolers. Lots of weak attempts at bluffing going on, as in raise/folding in stupid spots.

Villain is a weak semi-aggro Asian kid who i've played with before. Clearly thinks he's a winning player but he's not. I've got a tight image, not sure if a winning image or not because people don't pay attention. I'm pretty confident in my post flop skills in this game and that villains are capable of spewing TPTK, because they're usually good in this game against the other opponents at the table but i'm generally a lot tighter. Villain is capable of folding but has a hard time letting go of top pair type hands and will level himself into calling if he has already put a good % of stack in.

Stacks:
Game: 50p/50p, 8 handed.

Hero £75, Villain covers sitting with about £90.

Hand:

Hero is in MP, Villain on BTN.

Hero looks down at QJ and limps 50p. 2 calls, Villain calls, blinds check.

POT: £3, Hero £74.50, Villain £89.50.
Flop comes Q8Jr.

Checks round to Hero who fires £3. Folds to Villain who makes it £10. Everyone else folds. Hero calls.

POT: £23 Hero £64.50, Villain £79.50
Turn comes Q8J4r

Hero checks, Villain fires out £30. Hero shoves. Villain (to my surprise) tanks for 30 seconds before calling.

Thoughts?

My take:
I limped pre because on this table, any raise pre was going multiway and i didn't want to commit chips knowing i'm going to have to check/fold a pretty marginal hand if i miss/make second pair.

Leading out on the flop because there are so many draws and 2 pair combos that these villains will pay for, they are the call call check/fold river when they miss type, so i wanted to charge the ones who had pairs/draws.

When i'm raised on the flop i'm ranging him on big draws (tendency to bluff) and 2 pair type hands. I think there's a good chance he has KQ or AQ and a few K/AJ type hands in there, so i decide to just call to try and put him to a tough decision for his stack on the turn.

Luckily for me, the turn comes an absolute brick, and i'm only really scared of a 9. Now he's fired again at the turn though, i'm convinced he has a set or 2 pair. Probably wrong because of the tank when i shove over the top.

I'm never ever folding vs this villain once i flop 2 pair but what do you think we can range him on? I don't know whether to post the results now or not, so once we get some ideas on his range/my play i'll let you know what happened after the turn cause it could be significant to the answers.

Last edited by llllllll; 05-11-2013 at 12:11 PM.
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05-11-2013 , 12:11 PM
if he is semi aggro, we can include hands like pair+str8 draw, tp, and weaker 2pr combos in his range. obviously he could have a straight or a set, but the only likely set is 88s if you think he would raise JJs or QQs pre. regardless, i'm happy getting it in against an aggro opponent with top two.

biggest decision point in this hand is otf. i don't hate flatting, but 3b is also a decent option if you never think he is raise/folding.
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05-11-2013 , 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by fogodchao
if he is semi aggro, we can include hands like pair+str8 draw, tp, and weaker 2pr combos in his range. obviously he could have a straight or a set, but the only likely set is 88s if you think he would raise JJs or QQs pre. regardless, i'm happy getting it in against an aggro opponent with top two.

biggest decision point in this hand is otf. i don't hate flatting, but 3b is also a decent option if you never think he is raise/folding.
Yeh i was pretty unsure of how to proceed on the flop, i didn't want to blow him off the hand and he can make laydowns with second pair here i think. For some reason i wasn't very concerned with 9T at the time but i can see how that was a pretty decent option for him. Although he can never have that once he tanks the turn, but obv i wasn't to know that until i shoved haha.
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