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What is our river action in this hand at 2/5 nl What is our river action in this hand at 2/5 nl

02-10-2018 , 03:42 PM
I was curious what line you guys prefer taking on the river in this hand. Villain and I are 2k effective.

Villain has mostly been relatively snug. He will tend to open with his late positions. I am directly on his left so I’ve been typically 3b him pretty light but he will typically still call(understandable with stack sizes).

Hero has been active in pots and probably look a bit wild since I’ve been firing off a decent amount of 3b and opens.

One EP limp, villain opens 15 co, hero goes 50 from btn with As Ks and just he calls.

(105) Flop Js 9s 4c he checks we go 60 he calls.

(225) turn 10c he checks and we check back.

(225) river is 4s he fires out 150. Hero???
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02-10-2018 , 03:45 PM
Raise/fold
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02-10-2018 , 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by trob888
Raise/fold
Given the fact that we have the Ace and king of spades what type of hands are we attempting to get value from on this river when he leads. Qs 10s type hand or just smaller flushes?
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02-10-2018 , 04:09 PM
Flushes, straights, bluffcatchers, a weird QQ+. There are just too few hands that beat us to not raise here.
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02-10-2018 , 05:38 PM
Check Flop.

Maybe $400/Fold. Against villains that only put in additional $ OTR with Fullhouse + i suppose we can make a case for just flatting.
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02-10-2018 , 08:26 PM
$325-350.
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02-10-2018 , 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Tiltyjoker
Check Flop.
Think this is pretty bad. We want to make stuff like 77, 88 fold as well as build the pot while we have an equity advantage so that bet sizes are big if we make our hand. Only argument I can see for checking is we don't want to be checkraised if he flopped a set, but that's rare.

OTR I guess like 400. It's a bit of a dangerous game raising because our range is pretty badly capped in view of our turn check behind, whereas he might be as strong as tens full. Against a good, aggressive player I would not risk a raise here but against some LLSNL rando, sure.
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02-11-2018 , 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by trob888
Flushes, straights, bluffcatchers, a weird QQ+. There are just too few hands that beat us to not raise here.
Ok fair enough I just am not sure how many will call us here as well
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02-11-2018 , 02:07 AM
So after a bit of thought and my gut telling me just to flat since we really cover any big flush draws I did go for a raise but a tiny one to 325. He cried and complained about it being a cooler but he can’t fold and ends up calling with 99.

Thanks again for the responses guys really appreciate it.
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02-11-2018 , 02:22 AM
Not sure what's worse there, his line or his handreading.
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02-11-2018 , 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by caddymatty
I was curious what line you guys prefer taking on the river in this hand. Villain and I are 2k effective.

Villain has mostly been relatively snug. He will tend to open with his late positions. I am directly on his left so I’ve been typically 3b him pretty light but he will typically still call(understandable with stack sizes).

Hero has been active in pots and probably look a bit wild since I’ve been firing off a decent amount of 3b and opens.

One EP limp, villain opens 15 co, hero goes 50 from btn with As Ks and just he calls.

(105) Flop Js 9s 4c he checks we go 60 he calls.

(225) turn 10c he checks and we check back.

(225) river is 4s he fires out 150. Hero???
Raising is not a good idea. V has 13 combos FH/quads. With the As Ks Js and 9s there are only a few flushes a "snug" villain could possibly have. Does this V iso/call with hands like KQ? 87? QTss? If not it's almost impossible he has a worse flush here.

Against passive villains even calling is a stretch.

Against LAG villains you are likely good but raise/folding is risky as you don't want to get bluffed off your hand with something like QQ.

Flat call vs. villain as described.
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02-11-2018 , 04:51 AM
Everything ChrisV said.
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02-11-2018 , 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by caddymatty
So after a bit of thought and my gut telling me just to flat since we really cover any big flush draws I did go for a raise but a tiny one to 325. He cried and complained about it being a cooler but he can’t fold and ends up calling with 99.

Thanks again for the responses guys really appreciate it.
Yea if he tank calls with 99, we can adjust and not raise in spots like this vs this villain going forward.
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02-12-2018 , 02:49 AM
True but $400 is expensive tuition considering "next time vs this Villain" may not come.

Might be a better "line" to not raise flushes on the river against paired boards when Villains show strength.

But that's just me.
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