Playing 1/2 at the Palm Beach Kennel Club. Having a good day, my stack size is about $350. There are 5 limpers to me in the BB and I wake up with Ad,As. I raise to $20. UTG is my only caller. UTG is in his mid 50's and has been at the table for about an hour. He's playing loose passive poker, makes it to showdown quite often, but not winning many pots. He's basically a call machine with $180 going into this hand. I felt that my image going into this hand is loose aggressive. I'm just coming off of back to back winning hands, one that I made a hero call on just a pair of aces with a 4 spade board.

Flop: Qh,Js,4d

Action: I raise to $30 and he insta calls

Turn: 3h

Action: I check and he pushes all in for the remainder of his stack, about $130

What do you guys think? I tank and put his range somewhere around QJ, KQ, 44, QQ, JJ.... I end up making the call. Will tell you his hand after some discussion, Thanx

The only real question is whether he'd call with KQ or AQ pf and shove the turn as played. If the answer is yes, then it is a call. If not, it is a fold. No need to complicate it.

In general, loose passive players don't shove TP for stacks on the turn.

I agree Venice, from my experiences passive players never shove their whole stack with top pair. But what is his range in your opinion?

Why would you call against that range?

Bigger on the flop, bet the turn

Sounds like winner's tilt. Your range makes sense and crushes you, yet you called anyway. Board is too dry for much else to be in his range, except KK that was waiting to make sure an ace didn't hit.

QQ is extremely unlikely because he limp called pre. He snap called flop so it leans towards more of a top pair hand. I call here but not happy. You also beat AQ

Is he overplaying AQ/KQ/QT because we checked the turn and now he puts us on a missed AK and doesn't want us to get there for free/cheap? We don't know how this guy normally bets so it's hard to say.

I don't know, I'd say it's pretty close. If he never overplays here, we're in really bad shape. If he does overplay we're in pretty good shape but overall against his range including overplays and 2-pair+ it's kind of "meh".

If your plan was to check to induce, then follow through with your plan.

His range is way to tight for a loose passive guy playing against you who he views as loose and aggressive. hes a "call machine."

q8s+ j8hh+ a4hh+

bet call turn IMO

He turns over KK, pats me on the back and says I never put you on aces. Garrick called it. I couldn't put him on KK, thought he would've re popped pre UTG. Later on I asked him on my way out why he didn't re raise me preflop and he said, "I was slow playing you..." Guess he thought he was good. But I question the all in. Recreational player for sure. Thanx for your opinions

Also, while I was pondering his all in bet I ended up making the call partially because I felt like my check almost woke him up. He wasn't expecting it and reacted instead of contemplating his action. However, Bradley I didn't have a plan for the river. It would have been more interesting, say if he led out $55 to $60.

If KK was the bottom of his range here, it was a bad call with a good result. And you're making a mistake if you think he played this bad on the turn. Against your likely calling range, is +EV. His shove wasn't even thin value.

fair enough venice, you still never gave me a range. Guessing your range was similar but you don't call. Thanks for your critique

2pair/sets he's raising OTF, TP he's call station to river (still not sure why we didn't bet OTT).
He's showing here Q3 2pair hand.

My turn check was an out of position, see where I'm at action. Obviously it back fired, but worked out in the end.

Against this sort of v I'm snap calling, they love to put you on ak, and very often spas out when the pot gets bigger because they don't want you to hit your overcards or gutshot. It's ridiculous the amount of times where I iso raise or 3b pre, then get shoved on by underpairs or tpnk after I cbet when there is no a or k on board. This is almost always done by ordinarily loose-passive stations in my experience.

My favourite example of this was against a guy who would limp/call his entire pf range including aa, and rarely showed postflop aggression. I raise large over limps from the bb w/ aq, cbet q72r, and he just shoves pot with 55.

Oh, and please bet turn, sure he had kk this time, but unless you have a read that he will spas out with any pair when checked to, you're leaving value on the table.

bad thought process, yet somehow you got it in. Why do you ever check the turn? what is going on in your mind?

Pot is 100.00 on the turn. Bet 65.00-75.00 for value, and if he shoves snap off the rest of his stack.

Not much to think about when you're playing 100bb with AA

I think normally with an SPR under 3 having aces, unless the flop is 8d9dTd (or something similar) and you don't have a diamond you just have to always get it in.

With the SPR being so low I don't worry about anyone's range; you can virtually never know it accurately enough to fold.

There's no player I've ever met tight enough where I'm laying down aces in this spot.