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Originally Posted by Garick
Does he normally have a thick accent, or was this a Rounders reference?
I generally find that when people do something out of the ordinary for them, their range is much stronger. Most people try to avoid weirdness with bluffs.
+1,
when decent players all of a sudden do something telly like this I tend to regard them as strong, but not nutted.
From my experience V has a hand with lots of equity that can't fold but simultaneously is NOT the nuts. He's not thrilled to play for stacks but he can't fold and he can't call merely to fold river so that leaves jamming.
I think we can take AQ and Q9 out of his range (as mentioned earlier, Q9 really shouldn't be in his range here.)
I think his range is most likely sets KK / JJ or an AA that is too stubborn to fold. The only way I include AK would be if it also had a backdoor draw but I see the Ks is on the board and only backdoor draw is X
Y
and I can't see V doing this with A
J
. Another hand in his range that could do this would be Q
J
but most likely backdoor candidate is J
T
. So, if I had to range V it would be KK, JJ, J
T
as most likely candidates imo
AQ should be in his preflop raising range but its rare for competent players to do the hollywood thing with the stone cold nuts. If he does, then I would submit he isn't as seasoned as you infer and is more of a typical rec-fish. Typically, its my experience that even seasoned players can inadvertently let their nerves get the better of them in big pots when they know they are up against a good player who has a good hand and they likely have a good non-nutted hand that is scared of the nuts but just has too much equity to fold...
IN order to call here, I'd really need to have the straight or JJ/KK.
Throwing this into stove, if I give V a range of JJ, KK, TT, QsJs, and JsTs then our KJ is a 24% dog
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Text results appended to pokerstove.txt
616 games 0.000 secs 123,200 games/sec
Board: Ks Jh Td 8s
equity win
Hand 0: 75.325% { KK, JJ-TT, QsJs, JsTs }
Hand 1: 24.675% { KJs }
so yeah, not looking too good and this excludes AQ from his range...