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What hands should hero bet? What hands should hero bet?

05-17-2013 , 12:19 PM
1-2NL afternoon weekday. Hero is not me.
Villain (300): Mid 40's white woman. Straddling UTG often. Slightly laggy, not totally clueless, but does not yet understand bet sizing.
Hero (285): Mid 20's white head phones, hoodie, hasn't shown down much.
Rest of table passive, not good.
No history. 2 hours into game.
One of the limpiest tables I've seen in a while.

PF: Villain straddles to 4 UTG.
UTG+1 limps, Hero limps, one other in mid position limps, BB calls, Villain raises to 12. (like I said, doesn't get bet sizing)
UTG+1, Hero, and BB call.
4 ways to flop: Pot $50 post rake.
A 3 T
Checks to villain who bets 15, only hero calls.
Turn: HU pot = $80
A 3 T T
Villain checks, hero bets $40, hero calls.
River: pot = $160 Villians stack = ~$215
A 3 T T Q
Villain checks and I kinda think hero should bet his entire range... thoughts?
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05-17-2013 , 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by BeakWetter
1-2NL afternoon weekday. Hero is not me.
Villain (300): Mid 40's white woman. Straddling UTG often. Slightly laggy, not totally clueless, but does not yet understand bet sizing.
Hero (285): Mid 20's white head phones, hoodie, hasn't shown down much.
Rest of table passive, not good.
No history. 2 hours into game.
One of the limpiest tables I've seen in a while.

PF: Villain straddles to 4 UTG.
UTG+1 limps, Hero limps, one other in mid position limps, BB calls, Villain raises to 12. (like I said, doesn't get bet sizing)
UTG+1, Hero, and BB call.
4 ways to flop: Pot $50 post rake.
A 3 T
Checks to villain who bets 15, only hero calls.
Turn: HU pot = $80
A 3 T T
Villain checks, hero bets $40, hero calls.
River: pot = $160 Villians stack = ~$215
A 3 T T Q
Villain checks and I kinda think hero should bet his entire range... thoughts?
I think hero should bet $60 ott to set up a river shove. I dont think 40 yr old woman is folding any A here.
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05-17-2013 , 12:35 PM
Better than Ax can be bet for value and worse than Ax and Ax can be bet as a bluff. She looks a lot like AK/AJ or sticky KK/JJ, so bluff should be sized at $175+ to get a fold. If hero has a value betting hand, then $100-$125.
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05-17-2013 , 01:01 PM
im not sure what your issue is with v bet sizing.... 12 is on the low end of standard/acceptable, IMO.... im probably betting AAQQ+ here but checking back AK-

i don't think you can really bluff here -- feels like V usually has an ace and unless youve seen her make hero folds otr i dont think you can count on her ditching it often enough to make bluffing this river worthwhile.

if youre going to try to bluff at this pot, the turn is the spot to do it and you need to make a bet close to full pot.
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05-17-2013 , 01:22 PM
Hero should go back in time and size his bets better on turn so he has like 2/3-3/4 of pot left on the river. Really you could also raise over flop with a decent hand to set up all-ins better since villain's line screams Ax.

I'd say Tx or better are clear bets, as well as AK-AQ. Def not betting under Ax since it's hard for me to see her folding much since she has AATTQ no matter what.

It's close with weaker Ax, probably not much of a difference between checking and betting. I might shove them to see if I can fold out other Ax.

Last edited by The Rumor; 05-17-2013 at 01:50 PM.
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05-17-2013 , 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Turyia
im not sure what your issue is with v bet sizing.... 12 is on the low end of standard/acceptable, IMO.....
I consider the below two streets terrible by villain.
PF: Straddle pot as the straddler, raise to 12 after 4 limpers?
Flop: Bets 15 into pot of 50.
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05-17-2013 , 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by BeakWetter
I consider the below two streets terrible by villain.
PF: Straddle pot as the straddler, raise to 12 after 4 limpers?
Flop: Bets 15 into pot of 50.
The flop sizing is pretty atrocious.

Pre, i missed the straddle. Yeah 12 is really low.
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05-17-2013 , 02:32 PM
Ffs, lose the hoody and headphones. Don't be THAT GUY.

Hate the limp, especially in a straddled pot. Either raise or fold imo. Your entire range. Even at the "limpiest" tables you've seen in a while. Actually, especially at the "limpiest" tables you've seen in a while. From EP or MP, if it's not a hand you want to raise (or call a raise) with, just fold.
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05-17-2013 , 05:24 PM
V clearly has Ax. I bet river with AK or better.

Bet sizing by V is extremely poor.
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05-17-2013 , 05:56 PM
Definitely not your entire range, villain is super sticky and I doubt you're finding a fold from her too often. Obviously any Ace that isn't a chop is a b/f line(I know I know, fold? Really? But what is villain raising otr that we beat most of the time here). If you're taking the lead ott for value then I like a little bigger than 1/2psb to avoid the current awkward stack sizes. River becomes simple with a 2/3psb ott. Now I like vbet of 125, bluffing range is almost non existent with this villain. Also her range is fairly wide with pp, k/q/j/9-10, Axs pre and otf.

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