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12-08-2018 , 08:37 PM
2/5 game, effective stacks $650, villain is a solid TAG. Hero has a TAG image.

UTG straddled to $10, folds around to villain in the HJ who raises to $35, CO to SB fold, hero calls in the BB with 7-7, straddle folds. Pot is $80.

Flop 8-4-2 rainbow, hero checks, villain bets $50, hero calls, pot is $180.

Turn 8, hero checks, villain bets $100, hero raises to $200, villain calls. Pot is $580.

My thinking OTT is that the 8 hits my range more than villain's range. At this point villain may have 2 overcards which I probably won't get any more value from anyways, so I didn't mind turning my 7-7 into a bluff and giving up the SDV; or he may have an overpair, which I felt like I could make him fold. I intentionally made my raise size very small because I felt the small check-raise looks more suspicious than just jamming the turn, and any bigger would leave too little for a river bluff. I intended to jam on all rivers.

River 2, hero goes all-in for remaining $350.

Thoughts?

Last edited by Garick; 12-08-2018 at 09:01 PM. Reason: removed results
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12-08-2018 , 09:44 PM
Hate it.

-Not deep enough.

-V has already invested close to $300 in the pot. That's almost half the effective stacks.

-V has too good of a price on the river.

-Low stakes Villains hate folding overpairs

-V can have some 8x raising from the CO
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12-08-2018 , 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by bodybuilder32
Hate it.

-Not deep enough.

-V has already invested close to $300 in the pot. That's almost half the effective stacks.

-V has too good of a price on the river.

-Low stakes Villains hate folding overpairs

-V can have some 8x raising from the CO
Would you hate it less if we were deeper? If so, how deep would you consider running this bluff?
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12-08-2018 , 10:01 PM
Fold pre
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12-08-2018 , 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by GuitarDean
Would you hate it less if we were deeper? If so, how deep would you consider running this bluff?


i don't like it. i think we have to just fold at this point, unless he is really out her just ramming flops and turns then its find to call down.

raising i just hate, we are turning our hand into a bluff. he is never folding over pair or a good 10 to it. just hate it.


but i mean following up with a river jam is fine i guess, might as well.
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12-08-2018 , 10:59 PM
Don't like it.

Anytime your bluff is based on "I flopped a set" or on "I paired a mid-range card" (8) on the turn for trips it's not very believable to villain with big overpair.

Save your big bluffs for scary boards........
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12-08-2018 , 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by crsseyed
Anytime your bluff is based on "I flopped a set" or on "I paired a mid-range card" (8) on the turn for trips it's not very believable to villain with big overpair.
Noted. I'll definitely remember that.

It's funny, because I've definitely been on the opposite side of this and refused to believe that someone has hit trips on me, and yet I somehow decided I can make villain believe I had trips here...

Okay, this was a dumber bluff than I thought it was.
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12-08-2018 , 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by GuitarDean
Noted. I'll definitely remember that.

It's funny, because I've definitely been on the opposite side of this and refused to believe that someone has hit trips on me, and yet I somehow decided I can make villain believe I had trips here...

Okay, this was a dumber bluff than I thought it was.
Yeah, been there/done that for me too ha. Best way to learn tho...
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12-09-2018 , 12:27 AM
Yeah, it’s hard to bluff people on the double paired boards. I’d be less surprised to see you get called by a worse hand than to see you get a better hand to fold here.
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12-09-2018 , 02:03 AM
Yeah stack sizes arent helping you here. i think once v peels ott you will be getting called otr pretty often. If you have a nitty image and v has a fold button you can get him to fold but I think once v peels turn your river bluff gets much worse. I dont see why we need to raise/turn our hand into a bluff unless v will have it often. I think I would rather just call flop/turn and c/r river if v tries to go thin over what we decided to do ap with a turn click back river jam at these stack sizes.
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12-09-2018 , 02:09 AM
There's no reason to bet the river, since overpairs aren't folding, and overcards aren't calling.
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