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06-05-2018 , 04:51 PM
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1/2 230$ effective stacks.

Im in c/o and limp 2$ with 910hh. Sb raise to 29$. Bb folds and other imper folds, i call.
I instantly range him jj+ Aface...type of hand.
So heads up to flop.

Pot: 62$

Flop is 9d8cAh he bets 50$. I call.

Pot: 162$

Turn. 7s he goes all in for 150$.

What do i do......i put him on A face here....

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06-05-2018 , 05:44 PM
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Raise pre the first time. Readless, I would assume you're facing a strong range of TT+, AQ+, maybe a few other weaker suited broadways. Seems like you ranged him similarly, so why did you call? You are not getting nearly the correct price against this range, and your stacks are not deep enough to outmaneuver him postflop.

AP, you have at most 13 outs (28% equity) and you need ~33% to call. So fold.
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06-05-2018 , 06:32 PM
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Raise pre the first time. Readless, I would assume you're facing a strong range of TT+, AQ+, maybe a few other weaker suited broadways. Seems like you ranged him similarly, so why did you call? You are not getting nearly the correct price against this range, and your stacks are not deep enough to outmaneuver him postflop.

AP, you have at most 13 outs (28% equity) and you need ~33% to call. So fold.
I called in hopes of slowing him down if he had 1010-Kk. I can rep the A and if i turn a draw(flush prefered) i can put some pressure on a non ace hand. I thought he was pretty nitty so this might of worked was my way of thinking....but when he shoved the turn 🤷🏽....and at best 13 outs....i think the 7h was the only card i can call off here.

He showed AJo....lol oops

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06-05-2018 , 06:40 PM
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I meant why did you call preflop with your read?
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06-05-2018 , 06:44 PM
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fold to the $29 raise pre.

pay attention to stack sizes. the A hits his range hard. calling flop with a game plan to bluff turns with less than one PSB left is a poor plan.

it's ok to overlimp these types of hands from c/o sometimes, but only if you're able to fold when it's raised like this.

it seems like you're ranging of him was good so perhaps you just need to apply more discipline and not get too attached to pretty implied odds type hands. you set $80 on fire here.

*edit: welcome to the forum! i recommend you post a lot of hand histories, you'll get a lot of great feedback in a very short period of time.
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06-05-2018 , 06:53 PM
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I meant why did you call preflop with your read?
......well.....i cant wait for AA or KK.....that would be boring....was trying to get creative, judging by the 2 responses i have to work on noticing stack sizes and knowledge of this affects his and my decisions...so...trying to learn.

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06-05-2018 , 06:54 PM
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fold to the $29 raise pre.

pay attention to stack sizes. the A hits his range hard. calling flop with a game plan to bluff turns with less than one PSB left is a poor plan.

it's ok to overlimp these types of hands from c/o sometimes, but only if you're able to fold when it's raised like this.

it seems like you're ranging of him was good so perhaps you just need to apply more discipline and not get too attached to pretty implied odds type hands. you set $80 on fire here.

*edit: welcome to the forum! i recommend you post a lot of hand histories, you'll get a lot of great feedback in a very short period of time.
Yes.
What is PSB?
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06-05-2018 , 06:59 PM
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trying to learn.
this already puts you ahead of almost every other player at the table.

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Yes.
What is PSB?
pot sized bet

with regards to mixing it up, 9Ts is a good hand in a lot of spots to see flops with, but you have to recognize which ones with precision. here, his range is too strong and your implied odds to weak to make the call correct.
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06-05-2018 , 07:12 PM
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Ill say it, fold pre. Ten high is pretty, but not for a 15x raise.
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06-05-2018 , 07:35 PM
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Ill say it, fold pre. Ten high is pretty, but not for a 15x raise.
True.

20-30$ pre was standard at the table tho........ but yes i will fold pre next time vs this type and his stack.

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06-06-2018 , 01:56 PM
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1/2 230$ effective stacks.

Im in c/o and limp 2$ with 910hh. Sb raise to 29$. Bb folds and other imper folds, i call.
I instantly range him jj+ Aface...type of hand.
So heads up to flop.

Pot: 62$

Flop is 9d8cAh he bets 50$. I call.

Pot: 162$

Turn. 7s he goes all in for 150$.

What do i do......i put him on A face here....

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Fold pre. Awful IO to call with your hand.

AP, you fold as quickly as possible (on the flop too). I think you lit $77 on fire in this hand calling the 3! pre and the $50 OTF. At $1/$2, that is almost 4 hours of earn for the best players.
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06-06-2018 , 02:46 PM
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Fold pre. Awful IO to call with your hand.

AP, you fold as quickly as possible (on the flop too). I think you lit $77 on fire in this hand calling the 3! pre and the $50 OTF. At $1/$2, that is almost 4 hours of earn for the best players.
Yes.

What are your opinions if effective stacks were 500$ or more.
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06-06-2018 , 02:50 PM
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Yes.

What are your opinions if effective stacks were 500$ or more.
At $500 u can call pre profitably (it is still pretty close tbh since his size was really big) but I still likely fold this flop to his bet. You just shouldn't bluff at Ace high flops in raised pots very often without an incredibly specific read. Play these spots for value when you flop two pair or trips or a huge draw.
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06-06-2018 , 03:31 PM
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20-30$ pre was standard at the table tho........
Sounds like a monster of a 1/2 game! What is the max buy in if the standard open is 10-15 BB??? 500? 1000?
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06-06-2018 , 03:46 PM
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Sounds like a monster of a 1/2 game! What is the max buy in if the standard open is 10-15 BB??? 500? 1000?
500 max bi.
But yes it always plays like this and thats a weekday!!!!!
Fri/sat......it gets nuts, 25 -40 pre for isolation play but alot of the times its multiway...even with a raise like that.
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06-06-2018 , 06:16 PM
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i probably still muck it pre with $500 stacks. i like to see flops for cheap with this hand, or raise in opportune spots. i'd call $29 if the game was all jacked up and several action players had called and we were all deep.
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06-07-2018 , 08:12 PM
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i probably still muck it pre with $500 stacks. i like to see flops for cheap with this hand, or raise in opportune spots. i'd call $29 if the game was all jacked up and several action players had called and we were all deep.
Yes im beginning to understand that now.
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