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Originally Posted by Nogyong
It's hard to provide obective advice about a well rounded strategy for this kind of spot without knowing what the effective stack sizes are, hero's image or what we perceive to be villain's preflop calling range (I don't know what you regard to be a standard player do you mean she seems to be a tight straight forward player?).
Whether you start the hand with $100 or $600 can make a difference to how you decide to play this kind of hand.
With $300 stacks or more, IMHO all of the following lines have merit:
Bet flop, check/fold turn
Check flop, bet turn, check/fold river
Bet flop, bet turn (with a draw to the second nuts), check/fold river
Check flop, check turn, check/fold river
The only line I really hate is a 3 barrel bluff.
Whether I check or bet is going to depend a lot on game flow.
Sorry if that sounds too general but I do think its worth mixing things up in this spot and frankly I'm more interested in spots where there is a chance of getting stacks in for 150bb or more.
Man I completely disagree. If I bet flop here I am never ever check/folding turn unless the turn pairs the J. It's easy for villain to have flopped an OK hand here (ace no kicker, jack, nut gutshots) but hard for her to have flopped strong, really just 88, AJs, A8s, maybe JJ. I think a single cbet then giving up is burning money, villain is going to be taking one off a LOT here.
We have a range advantage on this board, which means in general we should be looking to play our range aggressively. However, hands like KQ, KT etc etc are better hands to cbet here because they have a couple more outs if beaten and can make the nuts. You don't have a lot of check folds on this board so I'm fine to play 99 that way OTF.
I think your line was fine. The river makes me go hmmmm. I'm close to a call and might pull the trigger if I were suspicious of the player. The pot size bet kind of claims to have a good hand, but that's unlikely in view of the check-behind on a wet board OTT. Maybe she legit made her hand OTR, like has 22 or A2s. At the same time, most LLSNL players don't bluff in this spot, so it's just an unlikely bet either way. Generally fold, because LLSNL, and just call if you feel like this player is the type to get out of line.