Sorry, I know this is post 3, but OP has the nuts and a player has an All In button in front of him. OP has no obligation to stop the action, the best possible outcome just occurred for OP.

Completely dealer and vil mistakes here, one of them needs to be accountable for paying that bet. I would feel worse if the AI button wasn't in front of the player, but it was.

If you guys are holding this type of action against dealers or fish you must be the most popular players in the rooms you play in. Demand a fish's money when he's all in, call the floor on the dealer for a mistake. Real classy, guys.

+1 My standard response here is: "Pots wrong!". That generally stops things long enough to clarify things.

Lol, "Throw your cards or your chips across the line" is a great thing to say, too bad he didn't wait for one to happen.

What should happen: Dealer starts shipping you the pot, the 32dd guy says he said fold and looks at the guys nearest to him that might've heard and asks for a floor. When the floor comes and 1+ guys not in the hand say they heard him announce "fold" twice, floor will say it was a fold.

What I'd do in your shoes: If the dealer wants to push you the pot with his calling chips in it, okay. If anyone ever wants to hand me free money I'll take it, I understand the guy said fold but if he's too much of a pu$$y to get it corrected, sucks for him. I wouldn't lie and say he announced "call" but don't say a word to the dealer or floor unless they ask you something, if they do, answer truthfully.



I figure so many people will say this is scummy, it's 32dd-guy's responsibility to be able to fold clearly, when it's done with doubt and he's given a second chance, it's also his responsibility to do it clearly on the second chance. It's also his responsibility to ask for the floor to get is straightened out.

I once saw a girl hero-call a river, the board was like Kh Jh 4h - 8s - 2d, she had 99 and the bluffer missed a nfd with AhQd, but he wasn't one of those annoying guys who says "I missed" and waits for the other player to show, he tabled it immediately without a word. There were so many red cards the dealer thought AQ was a flush, pushed the guy the pot, a guy sitting next to the girl said "She has Nines" the dealer said "He has a flush" the girl never said a word. The girl looked confused and the dealer, who happened to be standing up it was his last hand of the down" said "Trust me he had a flush" and the girl said nothing, didn't call the floor, there's no judgement involved, the floor just needs to check the camera, everyone's hand was clearly tabled. She didn't stand up or herself and it cost her.



I wouldn't say it's an angle, he just wants the other guy to fold and then he'll show what he folded.

Was this guy late 20s, slightly shorter than average, and had a goatee?

The only really profitable angle shot that I can foresee goes as follows:

We've got a Hero, late 30s white convention going dude. Viewed for sure as a non-local tourist. Villain is 30ish & has probably traded a bit of conversa here & there during the session.

Villain hits his flush otr & now the dealer goes to push the pot to Villain & Hero wants to complain, so the dealer calls the floor. Villain tells Hero, sorry man, I'm sure the floor will straighten this all out.

All along, V knows what the house rule is: If you don't protect your position in the hand before the next street is played out, it stands as shown prior to that street.

Meaning, all-in placard in front of V = he gets the pot.

Now V states to the floor that he folded b4 the river & floor doesn't want to hear it. The rule is there to protect the game. If you folded you can work something out with your opponent, so long as chips aren't passed.

So V pulls out the chump change that was in the pot outta' his pocket, gives it to you & apologizes for the confusion. A bond develops & the two end up hitting the bar/dinner, maybe a strip club.

V learns Hero is worthy of being rolled, finds out the info thru conversation of what will be needed to accomplish it. For instance, V coulda' insisted they ride in separate cars for whatever reason & now knows what H is driving.

If V is as smooth as Paul Newman & the gang in "The Sting" he could make H feel right at home.

We have this stupid rule at my local room. There's a betting line around the table. It's not a "muck line", so, me the local gets bluffed into otr vs. visiting Rec & I fold by pushing my hand gingerly across the betting line & my friend the dealer doesn't make a move for 3-5 secs.

This gives Rec time to decide to show off & show his bluff. I then recover my hand, say call, & show my bottom pair. I am going to be awarded the pot, per previous discussion with the head floor man.

So reverse the roles & now my friend the dealer is going to snatch up Recs cards once he pushes them across the line. Because, all though it's not the fold line, the player's action was interpreted as a muck.

It's a win/win situation for the local.

The dealer can't ship the pot. There is another person besides the villain and the OP with live cards in the hand.

OP seems cloudy but I thought this meant that the dealer did something to indicate V3 folded.

WTF. There's no indication ITT that V or dealer are hearing impaired or mentally handicapped. They should both know that there needs to be clarity about what V's move was.

V is saying "I fold, I fold," and D is saying "he called, he called." This is complete BS and one or both of them should be barred from the room. My vote is the dealer gets a week's vacation without pay and gets told that the next time it will be 6 months.