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02-10-2012 , 12:03 AM
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don't talk about poker, or if you do, say something ridiculous.
This times 1 mirrion. I love to mention ranks, like how much I hate pocket jacks, or how 75h is my lucky hand because my wife's birthday is May 7th and why couldn't she have been born on New Years?
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02-10-2012 , 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by venice10
Thread delivers, as I expected it would.

One of my favorite stories of the spaghetti western era with Leone is that Leone would regularly turn to Eastwood and ask in broken English, "Clint, this is how they do it in Hollywood, right?" Eastwood had never seen anyone ever film or tell a story like Leone. However, he was so impressed with Leone's ideas that he always responded, "Yes Sergio, this is exactly how they do it in Hollywood" so Leone wouldn't change a thing. It is almost impossible to overestimate the effect Leone had on Eastwood's career as a director.

I realize we live in a Jay Leno era where everything has to go from A to B in the straightest line possible for the masses to understand it. Stampler is encouraging you to look outside of the straight line and draw lessons not directly tied to poker. These clips shows the dynamics of reading an opponent and successful bluffing. Same move, different results.





And yeah, don't ask to see the bluff.
vnh.
Venice10 always sharp as a tack.
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02-10-2012 , 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by stampler
I'm sure some of you aren't even capable of sitting there all night and not mentioning either a suit, a rank, or a street??
so it's a moot point, in that case.
I have a question for you about the idea of Mum poker.

I think I would be capable of doing this, with one exception. I've made some very good decisions and gained a lot of information, partly based on talking to villains. For example in a spot where I have to call a bet on the r—I mean, at the end of the hand heads up. Even when they think they are not responding to my questions/comments, sometimes a slight smirk or other small action is enough to tip the scales and make me feel confident in my read. I also find that simply asking "What'd ya have?" is enough to get V's to tell me (most players seem pretty straightforward with this with lies being rarer than you might expect) or even show their cards when I didn't show/tell mine.

So based on that, don't I lose some battles in the "information war" if I give myself a rule of not mentioning suits, ranks, or streets? Is that a trade-off I should be willing to make?
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02-10-2012 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by AcePlayerDeluxe
^ Love me some Stampler... but like bro love, not man love.







how many 5 year olds?

favorite music style/band?

headphones during poker?

cool thread so far
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02-10-2012 , 03:08 PM
^ Lol. Thats my new jam.
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02-10-2012 , 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by fold4once
I have a question for you about the idea of Mum poker.

I think I would be capable of doing this, with one exception. I've made some very good decisions and gained a lot of information, partly based on talking to villains. For example in a spot where I have to call a bet on the r—I mean, at the end of the hand heads up. Even when they think they are not responding to my questions/comments, sometimes a slight smirk or other small action is enough to tip the scales and make me feel confident in my read. I also find that simply asking "What'd ya have?" is enough to get V's to tell me (most players seem pretty straightforward with this with lies being rarer than you might expect) or even show their cards when I didn't show/tell mine.

So based on that, don't I lose some battles in the "information war" if I give myself a rule of not mentioning suits, ranks, or streets? Is that a trade-off I should be willing to make?
Ya, Mum Poker (aka TAs' MumPoker) is an extreme.
one end of the spectrum.
it's good to be able to do it with 100% accuracy;
it's also a great exercise in discipline if you have a problem of spewwing poker-speak at the table. Just racheting it down, if thats all you can do, is a step in the right direction, and will increase your profit, IMO.
Of course, youre free to bend the rules in profitable spots, if one comes up that youre clever enough to identify, and exploit.
(remember thats why we do it (*profit*).


it's just like how TAs' 'the professional' (TMWWN) is an extreme example
that prolly doesnt exist in the real world, but only in an idealized one.
everything he does is an expression of his poker game, everything.
when he eats, its consciously for his game. when he exercises, its because he knows its essential to his game performance.
when he rests, its to recharge his batteries for the next session.
everything is poker to him.

it's something to strive for!
It's a target of *profit* that youre trying to hit.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=w9v6t-4u47c

at @2:20 we notice that the MWNN is always thinking about his trade (gunfighting),
he's constantly hatching a new plan, or weighing his options in 'the game'.
even when he appears to be resting...

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02-10-2012 , 03:34 PM
Stamp, what do you think was your biggest epiphany in poker?
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02-10-2012 , 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by the machine







how many 5 year olds?

favorite music style/band?

headphones during poker?

cool thread so far
being a tilt monkey, my ipod is an important tool in my belt, for me.
i've got a wide variety of music.
classical, jazz (the complete Thelonius Monk riverside recordings, 32 Coltrane CDs, as much Miles, Eric Dolphy, ect...)
reggae (tried to get a grinder-nit in Vegas to bet the over/ under on how many reggae artists on my ipod, and he would'nt do it. what a nit!).
over 200 artists, anyways. (Trojan record label compilations.)
I love country music, too... Willie Nelson is my favorite hands down;
also have some Kitty Wells, Gram Parsons, Asleep at the Wheel,
Buck Owens...
and maybe it goes without saying, led zep (every album), sabbath, floyd,
and the usual bedrock.

headphones? i dont want to give myself away by citing the brand.
I stay away from the noise-cancellers, so that i can still hear conversations when i turn it down.
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02-10-2012 , 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by AintNoLimit
Stamp, what do you think was your biggest epiphany in poker?
that I hope I havent had it yet??

If I know everything there is to know, and am still grinding LS, then maybe i should just hang it up??

rephrase the Q: what's your biggest epiphany in poker so far.
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02-10-2012 , 03:48 PM
Stampleezee,

1) If Lep Zep and The Beatles never existed in the past, and "Physical Graffiti" and "The White Album" both just miraculously popped up for the first time now in 2012, which do you think would be more successful?

2) Why dont you listen to rap white boy? I mean cmon.
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02-10-2012 , 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by stampler

headphones? i dont want to give myself away by citing the brand.
I stay away from the noise-cancellers, so that i can still hear conversations when i turn it down.
let me guess, bose??? only fish wannabes use bose

so anyways i have the bose quiet comfort 3's and use them a bit when i play, 90% of the time im playing and am using them i only have one ear covered anyways. i can hear everything going on at the table, but the background noise breaks up the monotony. but when you really need the noise canceling because someone wont shut up, its pretty convenient
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02-10-2012 , 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by AintNoLimit
Stamp, what do you think was your biggest epiphany in poker?
off the top of my head, one little blurb that i know radically improved my game, and addressed one of my terrible leaks,
I heard in an interview w/ Jimmy Fricke, where he said that spewwing is defined as 'trying to win the money in the pot', and not your opponents stack.
maybe it was just timing, but its exactly what i needed to hear at the time. thnx gobbo.

I realized that spewwing, although really a strategic mistake, has it's origin in ones' 'mindset'

when youre thinking about being on a short roll, or your recent losses, or that cell phone bill, whatever, then youre head is not in the game.
youre not really present in the game,
and your mindset, or lack thereof won't allow you to play correctly until you fix it.
you will continue to spew, even if you know better.

that's why I look to TMWWN.
he is about executing, and performing, and not theorizing.

we all know the correct play, but rebel against it over and over sometimes when we arent on our A game.
How well do we know it, then?

If we could actually execute what we know in an ideal world, we would have graduated from LS by now.

poker isnt played in a vacuum.
how you perform in a vacuum (here on the forum) doesnt mean s#@yt.
it's how you perform in the trenches that matters.
that's the challenge.
that's where discipline as a determining factor comes in.

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02-10-2012 , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by SeeThomasHowl
Stampleezee,

1) If Lep Zep and The Beatles never existed in the past, and "Physical Graffiti" and "The White Album" both just miraculously popped up for the first time now in 2012, which do you think would be more successful?

2) Why dont you listen to rap white boy? I mean cmon.
1] white album/ McCartny = cheese

2] does 'Paris' qualify as white boy rap? (from Oakland)
I'm down with him, either way. (giving away my age; I actually saw RunDMC in the early 80's in Austin)
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02-10-2012 , 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by stampler
1] white album/ McCartny = cheese

2] does 'Paris' qualify as white boy rap? (from Oakland)
I'm down with him, either way. (giving away my age; I actually saw RunDMC in the early 80's in Austin)
I remember Paris, I'm old as hell too. Kind of. And ftr, I think thats black boy rap. Wp sir.

And seeing Run DMC in the 80s is something nobody I know personally has done. I saw em in like 1998 at Maritime Hall, SF before it closed. One of the best live shows, if not the best, that Ive been to.
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02-10-2012 , 04:30 PM
Dirty Harry: "This is a takeover!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G45UCqx9b_E

on my 'most played' playlist:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Sxhh_rkMvP4&feature=related
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02-10-2012 , 04:50 PM
ANL: 'what do you think was your biggest epiphany in poker?'
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Originally Posted by stampler
that I hope I havent had it yet??
I'll stick with this answer.^^^
Poker is such a vast subject, that it's actually endless. perhaps it's a parallel universe??
mot to mention it's nature of constantly morphing, so that whats correct today doesnt remain that way.
so, it's constantly expanding, too.
tommorrow is literally a new day. it's a living and breathing subject, besides the fact that its a game of incomplete information.

also, as a result, the skill levels available are unbounded; unlimited.
everything from 'training wheels' to 'Lance Armstrong' in skill levels are possible.
it's up to you, and your work ethic, (and a little luck).
even my home boy, LA, needed a little luck along the way.
(despite the fact that he worked harder, and wanted it more.)
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02-10-2012 , 05:18 PM
Great thread stampler I had to catch up, I been out with food poisoning for the past 30hrs have not ate since then either, funny the first time I ever got food poisoning and then you say in this thread don't buy junkfood, "got dammit stample should have made this thread ages ago."

Also the content is so good in this thread you have to reread it,lol.
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02-10-2012 , 05:23 PM
If iv'e had any epiphanies, ANL, i'm sure they just scratch the surface.
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02-10-2012 , 06:57 PM
Compare the games in Vegas outside the WSOP, to the games in Vegas during WSOP.
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02-10-2012 , 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by PokahBlows
How do I find a real poker friend at the casino. Do I just say "Hey can I get your number?". I have never asked anyone poker related can I get your number, always wanted to do it but feel kind of weird.
Happens all the time. It's only weird if you make it weird.
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02-10-2012 , 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by KyddDynamite
Happens all the time. It's only weird if you make it weird.
Where you been kydd you still crushing rivers casino?
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02-10-2012 , 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by KyddDynamite
Compare the games in Vegas outside the WSOP, to the games in Vegas during WSOP.
I'm sure you missed the TR buried in the chat thread,
but was there recently during the WSOP circuit Ceasars. (played cash only);
stayed longer than expected, but let's just say that when the circus left town,
I was getting flatted by the second nuts.

there are bad games during WSOP in the summer, but you'd have to go out of your way to find one since there are so many good ones (2/5).
if you can manage to set your schedule so youre sharp when the games are at their best,
it would be a good investment of your efforts.

it's not much of a poker town when theres no tournament going on, action wise.
(which fortunately seems to be about half the time)

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02-10-2012 , 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by the machine
let me guess, bose??? only fish wannabes use bose

so anyways i have the bose quiet comfort 3's and use them a bit when i play, 90% of the time im playing and am using them i only have one ear covered anyways. i can hear everything going on at the table, but the background noise breaks up the monotony. but when you really need the noise canceling because someone wont shut up, its pretty convenient
Overheard during CES week: "No highs, no lows? Must be Bose". lol
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02-10-2012 , 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by moskomedia
Overheard during CES week: "No highs, no lows? Must be Bose". lol
close

no highs
no lows
all mids
must be bose

im not a huge audiophile, i dont have 2k$ speakers and such but the QC3's sound pretty damn good to me. the bass def varies and hits some super low notes, and i listen to a wide variety of drum and bass so i hear all different styles of bass and frequencies being played.

ive heard some audiophiles say the only thing that is good from bose is their headphones but they would never touch the home theater systems
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02-10-2012 , 10:36 PM
At casino right now and have been mum as mum. Have barely said a word. So far it seems like people are playing me tighter but a)its too soon to tell and b) seems like a tougher table. I put on some glasses and immediately I get a comment from a guy, "Those are fancy glasses..." " Im scared of those." etc etc Meanwhile he is decked out in casino threads. I didn't say a word to him. Mum mum mum. I will report back later. So far my head seems to be into the game pretty well.

And no Im not typing this from the table.
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