Hero is UTG+3 with 89ss. Villain is HJ. No reads.

Hero raises pre to 15, Villian calls. Everyone else folds.

Flop ($33): 59Tr
Action goes check, check.

Turn ($33) is a 6, bringing in a club flush draw.
Hero bets 12, villain basically min-raises to 25. Hero calls, is folding even a consideration here given the price?

River ($83) is an 8c. Hero bets 30. Thoughts? Was a weird spot, didn’t know what to size. Figure I get called by a lot of worse with such a small bet (ex. Top pair that was scared of draws on the turn or weaker two pair) and get raised by a 7 in which case I am bet-folding.

Is there a better sizing on either street? Should I fold on the turn raise?

Assuming we're 100 BB deep?

I'm probably betting this flop, but it's not mandatory.

I would go $20 on the turn. You went a little too small. As played, definitely just flat the raise.

I would never lead the river here, no matter my hand after the b-c turn line. I'm just x-c this river, unless he goes very small, in which I'd raise for value.

Feel we should be check/calling rather than leading out. Leading into villain removes air/missed drawing hands from his range that he can bet with when checked to.

having to bet/fold with no reads is ugly imo.

my guess is he shows up with 78... xD

I bet the flop. Would you check an over-pair?

If you are going to bet the turn, bet bigger -- $20 - $25.

River bet is a bit small, too, but I probably check/call. He's folding a lot of hands, and I don't want to face a raise on the river -- easy board for him to bluff not expecting you to have a 7 or two pair, etc.

Yeah fair enough, seems like leading out could have been a mistake.

He just called and showed up with..... A SET OF 10s lol

Good points, thank you.

Wow! Your blocking bet, which probably wasn't even meant to be a blocking bet, worked.

oh wow!! i mean with many recreational players in my casino, they do love a good min-click with their perceived 'unbeatable hands' (disregard btw for straight draws/fd's!). There are things you can pick up in live play but perhaps this was the first real red flag, valuable info for next time i guess!

I don’t like any river bet less tha pot if he is calling small sizes with a lot worse like top pair and weaker two pair why are we value betting for him?

You basically saying he’d call with everything that beats us and never with something we beat.

If you going to do these bluffs go pot and make sure you’d do the same with an actual flush. Only way you’d get enough folds to make it justified.

I think you inadvertently gave him max value.

My idea wasn’t to bluff and rep a flush, I was trying to get value with my 2 pair while also preventing him from setting the price. I think for $30 (little over 1/3 pot) he calls with a lot of worse hands, no?

I will still go pot if you want him to call with worse. When you polarize your hand strength you change his decision to does he have a flush or not. If he thinks you don’t have it it opens his calling range to include worse. $30 bet would does similar but it actually skews your hand to the stronger side cause you have to have it more to make it profitable which means he’d skew towards the stronger side of his range.

I don’t mind the $30 as much as I did though. I misread your read on him.

Ok yeah true. Funny cause a pot sized bet would have almost definitely won the pot from a better hand... he ended up tank/sigh calling the $30 with a set of 10s thinking I had a 7.

+1

He got you to call the turn with second pair. Would you have called if he made it $60? Would you have called if he went to $100 on the river?

I wouldn't be laughing at him given how you played the hand.

Nope and nope. Called the turn because it was $13 more to try and win $83 and I figured I had at least 4 outs (7’s) and perhaps more if two pair/trips are going to be good. If I hit the 7 I can make a petty sizeable river bet and get value from hands like 2 pair and sets therefore giving me implied odds with the $13 dollar call. If he had raised the turn to $60 then those odds are definitely not there. But there are definitely reverse implied odds with the 7 of clubs in which case maybe the $13 call isn’t so good. Do you suggest folding the turn as played?

And river I’m definitely folding to $100 raise. If I had checked the river and he bet $100 I’m also folding. Idk, I don’t feel like he got max value out of a set of 10s into two pair even considering how the board played. I think I win the pot often enough, whether by him folding or calling with worse, to make river bet +ev. I could be way off though, it’s only my 3rd time playing live. How would you have played turn/river?

You played the hand fine, although a bit unorthodox. A lot of players might have lost more. I can't believe he checked the flop! BTW, I don't think he was folding river to a pot-sized bet. I think he still sigh calls.

Is betting this flop okay? I feel like leading for $10-$12 still gets value from overcards and straight draws without narrowing V's range too much.