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Originally Posted by iraisetoomuch
I think this could be a good spot with QQ to flat and check/ship over all flops that are Q high or lower over the likely cBet and get lots of money in the pot when we are likely way ahead as there's only a 35% chance that an overcard falls. But with JJ the chances go up so much more, and there's a 50% chance or so that an overcard falls.
This is more or less what I ended up thinking. With AK/QQ+ I could flat and check/shove any flop I liked. V1 is going to bet any board that helps him and some bluffs, and V1 will let me know where he is in hand after that. With JJ, playing OOP against two villains there are just too many flops I don't like. I didn't think shoving is good because one of the two is almost always getting it in here with a bigger pair or two over cards. JJ doesn't hold up well against that sort of range.
As it happened, the flop came down ace high, V1 checked, V2 bet and V1 folded. I would have to check that flop and fold to V2's bet, though it isn't sure I'm actually losing.