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Weird line with JJ against a LAG reg Weird line with JJ against a LAG reg

01-07-2019 , 09:50 AM
1/3 at the Aria

Hero ($260)
Villain ($300)
Villain is a LAG reg who has been calling behind me every raise I have made so far (Ive played 4 hands with him). Against me he has floated flops when I have C-bet then fired bets when I checked in a previous hand. Read is that he will overbluff. I have a TAG image and have been c-betting at a high frequency.

Hero (Otb) JJ
Villain (SB)
Folds to hero. Hero raises $15. Villain calls in the SB and BB folds.
Flop ($34):
A
10
6
Villain checks. Hero bets $15 and Villain calls
Turn ($64):
2
Villain checks. Hero bets $25. Villain raises to $45. Hero calls.
River ($154):
9
Villain bets $50. Hero calls.

I still have a very wide range when I raise otb and c-bet the flop ip. So against a lag who has made moves in previous hands, the x/r on the turn seemed to include a lot of bluffs. Idk how much the river changes things, is this an overcall or am I getting good enough odds to call against a weird line?
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01-07-2019 , 10:02 AM
How about checking either the flop or turn against described villain? Double barrelling this hand is pretty bad overall, and especially so against a villain you know isnt afraid to put you in difficult spots.

The biggest problem in general when facing these types of opponents is that many players insisting on executing the same lines over and over again that gets them in trouble. We need to change gears alot more and adjust.
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01-07-2019 , 11:43 AM
Hand is pretty spewy on all streets.

Preflop seems very large for a button steal.

I'm checking flop here a ton, it is so dry and we don't often have a hand that can stand a ton of action. I think a bet isn't too bad though since his range doesn't have AK-AJ in it much at all. Check is ok too.

When we get called I just shut down on turn. His range is Ax, Tx, etc, and Tx probably isn't calling a turn bet. Your best chance for value against Tx is check turn bet river.

River looks like a blocking bet so a raise to like $150 is superior to calling imo, but also we have better hands to raise river with as a bluff, such as Tx, A7 or whatever. This spot is confusing since I hardly ever play my range this way on flop and turn.
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01-07-2019 , 02:13 PM
If he's truly calling every raise preflop then I'd go $25 where I can trivially stack off postflop with an overpair (although noting that I have a single hour of Aria 1/3 NL under my belt and at that table $9 opens weren't getting called, so...).

Against this guy I'm probably checking back the flop to setup a turn call and possibly a river call. Not in love with betting as much as I think this guy could also take a flop check/raise line some of the time on Ace high boards (no?) which puts us in a gross spot. If he's fond of overbet bluffing on later streets then I'm more cool with a flop cbet as it allows us to likely set the sizing that we get to the river with.

The one good thing about our cheap flop bet (which I don't hate) is that it allows us to get to showdown for cheap by checking back the turn, which is what I would have done. Can't stand our bet, and not even in love with our call. We've shown a decent amount of strength and yet he doesn't seem to care (he's been floating and taking advantage of weakness, not strength, right?).

Think we're mostly just getting owned on turn/river, especially when no draws are materializing to semi-bluff and we've shown strength the whole way.

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01-07-2019 , 02:36 PM
Check either the flop or turn. Betting both streets is bad. You check one street and can easily bluff catch the rest of the hand.
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01-07-2019 , 06:48 PM
Thanks everyone. I should have checked turn and looked to call turn and possibly river to bluff catch. Bet was a huge mistake which immediately got me into bad spot. Re the open, I was at the table for 4 hrs and $15 was the standard open.

Result: I show JJ and he mucks.
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01-07-2019 , 10:22 PM
These spots are tricky. Normally this will be a flop check. Against someone who is calling you way too light on the flop, betting this for value is fine. You can't expect to bet flop and turn with less than top pair on a dry board and expect to be good when called though. Given the read I like the flop bet, but would check back the turn, and then look to bluff catch the river. As played I would snap fold the turn. Even against a wild player I give turn check/raises a ton of respect.

According to your HH villain made an illegal undersized raise OTT.
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01-07-2019 , 10:27 PM
It’s a really odd line by the villain here without Ax. I’m not sure what he was trying to accomplish with that $50 bet on the river. You’re not folding to that given your B/C on the turn. What exactly is he targeting with that bet?

If I’m villain here, I’m either x/f or leading out for $110. $50 was the worst decision.
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