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09-26-2018 , 09:23 AM
Villain ($450): Late 20s/early 30s, wearing his hood, earphones in, has played standard TAG poker from what I've seen with a tendency to be slightly more passive preflop

Hero ($375): Has played relatively tight so far, not many large showdowns

MP limps $2, Hero (CO) raises to $10 with KsQc, Villain (BTN) calls, folds to MP, who calls.

Flop ($30): 10cJhKh

UTG donks $10, Hero raises to $30, Villain shoves all-in.

What's your read on this flop shove?

Last edited by 2NLwinner; 09-26-2018 at 09:49 AM.
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09-26-2018 , 09:40 AM
AhXh? Probably A2-A9hh.

Am I reading something wrong, though? You flopped the nuts and we’re trying to delve into his range? I R confuzzled.
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09-26-2018 , 09:46 AM
Part of the formula to range someone is what position they are in. How did UTG lead the flop when you never said UTG limped in the first place? His range from UTG or MP is different...So there's that confusion...but...

Who cares what his range is? You have the nuts. Call the all in and let the poker Gods sort it out.
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09-26-2018 , 09:48 AM
Ah, sorry, total **** up. Edited. I have top pair and OESD.
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09-26-2018 , 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by 2NLwinner
Ah, sorry, total **** up. Edited. I have top pair and OESD.
No, you dont. Not unless the flop is wrong also......

...I see the flop has been edited now also.

We still dont know what position villian is in.
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09-26-2018 , 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
No, you dont. Not unless the flop is wrong also......

...I see the flop has been edited now also.

We still dont know what position villian is in.
That's what I get for poasting quickly at work. Villain is BTN.
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09-26-2018 , 10:58 AM
Dude, this thread is a total train wreck. If villain is the button then he didnt lead the flop and you didnt raise him.
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09-26-2018 , 11:17 AM
Post looks right to me, so it must have been fixed. (I assume UTG folded?)

His shove is AhXh, two pair, flopped straight, set. For ~200bb, just fold.
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09-26-2018 , 11:23 AM
flat his flop donk. I dont really think you can raise and get called by worse, and your hand is obvi too strong to bluff with.
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09-26-2018 , 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 2NLwinner
Villain ($450): Late 20s/early 30s, wearing his hood, earphones in, has played standard TAG poker from what I've seen with a tendency to be slightly more passive preflop

Hero ($375): Has played relatively tight so far, not many large showdowns

MP limps $2, Hero (CO) raises to $10 with KsQc, Villain (BTN) calls, folds to MP, who calls.

Flop ($30): 10cJhKh

UTG donks $10, Hero raises to $30, Villain shoves all-in.

What's your read on this flop shove?
So I'm guessing MP led, you raised, and button shoved?


If so I think button is soiling himself at the prospect of a suckout. If he is playing standard I would say while on this board his range is quite wide, you should not be shipping 150 bb here with just TP OESD. he can have AA JJ 10s or even flopped it himself, unfortunately you're not in great shape against those ranges and you only have 6 outs, again, maybe I'm scared money here but its just not worth it lol.
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