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Originally Posted by daniel9861
Turn - That card sucks. Now if we bet big we're only getting value from KQ and QTs or Q9s and value owning ourselves against QJ and 4x.
How does this card suck? I admit it's not the ideal card. But it's not so bad.
Villain is tight - how much 4x is in his limp/call range pre-flop? Not much.
Simply using the hands you cited above:
Getting value from KQ + QTs + Q9s = 8 + 2 + 2 = 12 combos.
Value owned by QJ + 4x = 6 + 0 = 6 combos.
Go ahead and put some 4x combos for laughs (say 2 combos of A4s); I'll go ahead and add far more QTo combos for more laughs. Anyway, you get the point. Using the very hands you're highlighting makes the turn a very profitable value bet. The fact that we now lose to QJ doesn't change much at all. You also really can't give villain all QJo and QJs but say he only ever has QTs and no QTo.