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03-11-2013 , 01:14 AM

DryAngel

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Hi,

I tend to run into trouble in these spots reading it as a squeeze.

3/5 nl 500 max buyin

I have an active aggressive image but had the goods most times. Lost most of my profit to 2 hands (1 bad PF call and 1 draw out)

Hero (UTG) 750$
Button 195$

PF
Raise to $15 and 3 callers.
Button raises to $75
I call the $60 after tanking - intending to shove most flops.
All others fold.
I put button on big pairs TT+, AQ+ etc

Flop is 7sJs3s

Giving me nut flush draw and I bet 120 putting button AI.

is this hand a fold preflop? Given the short stack and 3 callers with 200ish behind me.

Thanks.

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03-11-2013 , 02:30 AM

Tom Dwans Son

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So no villain reads? That is really the most important piece of information you need to make your decision. If there are no villain reads, and this game plays similar to a typical 2/5 game then this is a fold as most players aren't squeezing.

Is there really value in flatting pre and shoving all flops? I don't know how to make that play. This is raise/fold for me.

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03-11-2013 , 03:22 AM

peckx063

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Why get into a big pot with AQ when you put the button on AQ+ or TT+? You're behind to literally that entire range.

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03-11-2013 , 04:02 AM

pieceofmine

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standard fold unless the button in a capable aggro player, which in that case you can flat or 4b. But in this case with multiple callers and re-raising over 1/3 of his stack, just fold. Your plan here is a big spew and you just happened to have hit one of those flops in which you have a lot of equity.

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03-11-2013 , 09:24 AM

wewa925

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^^^agree

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03-11-2013 , 10:56 AM

LastTrader

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If you are shoving most flop , why not shoving pre ?

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03-11-2013 , 11:15 AM

Oddhalo

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Ya fold pre... As played you should at least declare AI to give v the illusion that u have it now... As it sits he may not notice u have put him all in and this can sometimes be the little xtra you need to get a fold if he has a pair.

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03-11-2013 , 11:18 AM

TexAg06

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I don't understand making the comment that you range the villain on TT+, AQ+, then proceed to call with AQ. Why are you calling if you know you're at the bottom of his range?

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03-11-2013 , 12:11 PM

Avaritia

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Pre is spew, flop is standard, though I bet $100. This is scarier than an AI.

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03-11-2013 , 08:16 PM

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Oddhalo

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Only to thinking players though

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03-11-2013 , 08:29 PM

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spikeraw22

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you can probably profit in LLSNL by folding everything but QQ+ to 3 bets preflop. It's how I climed out of 2NL 5 years ago and it works today in live poker. AQ UTG with 40 people left to act= easy fold. Why are you planning on shoving most flops if you range him at what you did? doesn't make any sense.

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03-11-2013 , 09:11 PM

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fun101

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Originally Posted by spikeraw22

I agree, I even fold Queens to 3bets sometimes preflop.

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03-11-2013 , 11:06 PM

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baerrus

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Originally Posted by peckx063

Why get into a big pot with AQ when you put the button on AQ+ or TT+? You're behind to literally that entire range.

Well said, obvious question. If you thought it was a squeeze than go allin preflop.

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03-12-2013 , 07:51 AM

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Dr Cooper

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fold pre

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03-13-2013 , 07:27 PM

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DryAngel

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I agree with every comment. Looking back I just tilted myself into calling after a couple of suckouts. Just convinced myself that it is "my turn" to suckout. Lost
my mental balance in this hand and proceeded to spew for a while. Thanks everyone.

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Originally Posted by fun101

I agree, I even fold Queens to 3bets sometimes preflop.

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