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Originally Posted by QuadJ
This is a live read situation. You have to judge the possibility that UTG is tilted and how tilted, plus how UTG+1 might be reacting to UTG being tilted. Depending on the players this could be a fold or a call.
Keep in mind is that UTG tanking doesn't always mean weak. In this sort of situation AA is going to tank also because he wants a call. An instant shove is likely weaker, indicating a degree of tilt that he is just autoshoving when you show aggression. Also, don't discount UTG+1 just because he has been playing garbage. After the 3 bet and shove he should have a credible hand to call. You should have odds to play. His most likely hand is a middle pair. but you probably need to hit to win the main pot. This cuts into the profitability even if you think UTG is tilted enough to be shoving garbage.
This. Unless tilted a 4 bet shove at these stakes usually means we are racing at best (he's not doing this with AQ) and sometimes in a world of hurt when he has AA/KK.